EVE General Discussion

Did you mean "have a cookie and eat a cookie"?

i personally think standings should have consequences, if im liked by pirates i shouldnt be liked by the police, even though they dont anyway

trader is different, they don't engage in combat, however i shoot ded so i shouldnt be able to travel safely just like caldari who shoot gallente should not be allowed to travel safely through gallente space

Will we see kill missions against other capsuleers? Like a faction handing out kill mission against capsuleers that droped their standing to abysmal. This could even include kill rights, bribed from a corrupt CONCORD official.

So why should people who choose to shoot real players be penalised differently from those who shoot the npc versions? roleplay very much does exist in this game you seem pretty ignorant to not notice it

Whether RP exists or not, doesn't make the previous statement any less wrong.

Yes, I'm sure you didn'y say your own statement was wrong, but it was.

The friendship between Amarr-Caldari and Gallente-Minmatar was not because FW was created. It existed long before that.

Finally...a move in the right direction. Only a slight move, but it's something nonetheless.

But with suggested timescales it does mean there is no reason for me to play for two years.

For those who say CCP can't afford to sustain a "themepark" game I beg to differ - they have created the most incredible template, stunning visuals and so on, so the groundwork is laid. Rather than wasting design time introducing yet more ships and other things that are surplus to requirement if they invested heavily in lore and PVE tens of thousands would flock to the game and stay there (assuming they develop rich storylines). I can't understand why they haven't done it before. It seems, to me at least, glaringly obvious. Whenever people talk about how CCP fails to keep new players in the game they seem to focus on PLEX prices or ganking or the steep learning curve. Personally I think it has more to do with the poor state of PVE and lack of an overarching and cohesive story.

But then I support a fully fledged PVE version of Eve so I'm fairly confident my views don't count.

you have sisi if you want fully fledged pve version, its been explained a million times the pvp is needed to support markets. ok dont play for 2 years, get new missions then grind for another year and you will be bored and back on the forums moaning for more content to be spoon fed to you.

people like you are never happy i dont know why ccp bother catering anything to you're sort

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you have sisi if you want fully fledged pve version, its been explained a million times the pvp is needed to support markets. ok dont play for 2 years, get new missions then grind for another year and you will be bored and back on the forums moaning for more content to be spoon fed to you.

people like you are never happy i dont know why ccp bother catering anything to you're sort
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Well, thanks for referring to me as a "sort". My imagination extends much further than "repeat missions", which admittedly would be (and are) extremely boring. And I am far from being the "people like me are never happy".

But there's no need to argue here - I do understand the appeal of "the sandbox"; I just think it only appeals to a small demographic (I may be wrong, tis only my viewpoint). I consider spending hours flying round looking for a red cross to shoot boring (and what exactly is the point in the first place?). I also consider all enterprises where the sole aim is the maximisation of virtual currency boring.

What I don't find boring is an intriguing story - and I will argue that history is on my side here. From Homer to Eastenders (a British soap), and thousands of classics inbetween, people love and consume stories, voraciously. Will the guy get the girl, will the hubristic king lose his kingdom, or in more modern parlance, will the single mum with three kids who has just lost her job be able to pay the rent next month to avoid eviction? Stories. Lore. That's what fascinates. We are, intrinsically, a story-driven species.

Building Eve upon a firm bedrock of lore with a multiplicity of stories and game mechanisms would, in my view, ensure the game's continuity. At the moment there is nothing to care about in the game. I know there are those who, for whatever reason, enjoy staring at an asteroid for hours at a time, or sitting on a gate - but what is it people say they are really doing when engaged in such activities? They are watching stories on Netflix! Well, why not bring the story to New Eden?