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Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#41 - 2015-10-24 16:46:26 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
you're just scared you'll be held accountable for your actions.

Play EvE in hardcore mode.

Stop hiding behind anonymity and accept responsibility for what you say and do.

#manmode



Not scared at all, given who I actually work for in real life I do not have a facebook account anyways. That is not the point, the point is meta gaming has already been taken to a whole new level... Don't give a knife to a serial killer.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-10-24 16:48:51 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
you're just scared you'll be held accountable for your actions.

Play EvE in hardcore mode.

Stop hiding behind anonymity and accept responsibility for what you say and do.

#manmode



Not scared at all, given who I actually work for in real life I do not have a facebook account anyways. That is not the point, the point is meta gaming has already been taken to a whole new level... Don't give a knife to a serial killer.


Why would you assume this game's player base would resort to threatening physical violence for disagreements had online?

Do you not trust us?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#43 - 2015-10-24 16:50:00 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Accountability.

Yes, lets make it so you're only allowed to post on the forums if your facebook account is linked and verified to have your name on face book matching the credit card used when creating/paying for your eve sub.

That way we can ensure that we can hold the person responsible for the things they say on these forums.

Not just their characters, but their actual person. Way too often people on these forums get away with things that they would not attempt if their true identities were at stake.

#manmode


People still Facebook?

There's far too much stupid in the world.

Mr Epeen Cool
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#44 - 2015-10-24 16:51:01 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
you're just scared you'll be held accountable for your actions.

Play EvE in hardcore mode.

Stop hiding behind anonymity and accept responsibility for what you say and do.

#manmode



Not scared at all, given who I actually work for in real life I do not have a facebook account anyways. That is not the point, the point is meta gaming has already been taken to a whole new level... Don't give a knife to a serial killer.


Why would you assume this game's player base would resort to threatening physical violence for disagreements had online?

Do you not trust us?



I don't have to assume anything. How uninformed you are.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#45 - 2015-10-24 18:15:50 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:

Probably not any more than war-dec'ing them in game for something they posted on a forum.



Wars have started many a time because of smack in local. Why should it be different for the forums?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-10-24 19:07:59 UTC
Back to actual content,

How cool would it be if you could fly around a Bustard with 180km ship hangar that cloaks when you swap into your procurer or moa that you keep inside?

We need space RV's so I can set up camp wherever, whenever.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-10-24 20:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Market McSelling Alt
Divine Entervention wrote:
Back to actual content,

How cool would it be if you could fly around a Bustard with 180km ship hangar that cloaks when you swap into your procurer or moa that you keep inside?

We need space RV's so I can set up camp wherever, whenever.



You mean an Orca? Yeah we should have Orcas in game. Minus the cloaking when you abandon it... that idea is funny.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#48 - 2015-10-24 21:48:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Back to actual content,

How cool would it be if you could fly around a Bustard with 180km ship hangar that cloaks when you swap into your procurer or moa that you keep inside?

We need space RV's so I can set up camp wherever, whenever.



You mean an Orca? Yeah we should have Orcas in game. Minus the cloaking when you abandon it... that idea is funny.


An orca doesn't really work because it's geared towards multiple people.

Orca pilot lets others store ships inside, other people come and take the ships whenever, but that orca pilot is stuck to the orca if he's going to keep it out in space not in a pos. If he ejects from that orca to jump into his Cruiser to go kill belt rats or run sites, then the orca is fair game to be scanned down and stolen.

I'm talking an orca-esque ship that can deploy into a mini pos. When it's deployed it follow's POS rules for being destroyed, except a substantially smaller reinforce timer, like 15-30 minutes to allow the owning pilot to return and figure out how the hell he's going to defend it.

Something for the solo player. The wanderer. The drifter. The guy who flys from system to system just trying to make his way in the world, err in the space. The equivalent of a guy driving around the country in his Winnebago hooked up with a trailer he keeps his ATV's on.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#49 - 2015-10-24 23:13:15 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Accountability.

Yes, lets make it so you're only allowed to post on the forums if your facebook account is linked and verified to have your name on face book matching the credit card used when creating/paying for your eve sub.
That way we can ensure that we can hold the person responsible for the things they say on these forums.

Not just their characters, but their actual person. Way too often people on these forums get away with things that they would not attempt if their true identities were at stake.
#manmode
I would go to a community gathering like Evesterdam, Fanfest, etc dressed as a hooker before I would make a Farcebook account. Ugh

You advocated an inane garbage site and use hash tags? Man mode? Teen girl mode.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#50 - 2015-10-24 23:37:22 UTC
Darn. I'm not "edgey".

I have a Facebook account.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-10-25 01:59:16 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:
Darn. I'm not "edgey".

I have a Facebook account.



No no no, the one you made to get on Tinder doesn't count Lol

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Lord Connir
The Amarr Republic
#52 - 2015-10-25 02:08:07 UTC
id say ccp needs to stop givng away free stuff to gambleing sites like iwantisk.com they can give these sites free stuff but not the reg. players
Dror
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2015-10-25 13:48:24 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Space Frog wrote:
In order to revive the game where people would pay to play and not pay to win, which elements would CCP need to remodel / rebalance? Or maybe to ask the question this way, what else would you like CCP to introduce into EVE which would keep the player base stable and rising, rather then dying?


At its most basic, all CCP needs to do is supply us with a sandbox with as few rules as needed to supply a bit of balance.

It's up to us to create the content that decides whether the game lives or dies. It's our game to screw up as we see fit. And it's our game to revive, if we're even capable as EVE players of looking beyond our own selfish play styles and seeing the big picture.

It's certainly been interesting over the years to watch this game go from "Good fight mate", to "HAHAHA I ****** you up good, loser GTFO".

We have only ourselves to blame for the state of the game. No one else.

Mr Epeen Cool

QFT; and in the spirit of this post, it's worth mentioning SP as a major content problem for fresh subs, including the referrals of both newbies and veterans.

I've written a whole post on it here, cited multiple (established) theories and relevant research, and contrasted them to critiques through the thread.

Enjoy.

"SP is helpful for the game?" Here's all of the research on motivation -- it says the opposite! What purpose does it serve, then? Starter corps are non-competitive. Sov is unchallenged. "Fix sov!" you say? Remove SP.
Martin Corwin
Doomheim
#54 - 2015-10-25 15:33:33 UTC
Space Frog wrote:
In order to revive the game where people would pay to play and not pay to win, which elements would CCP need to remodel / rebalance?


Force a player <-> character relation of 1:1. Remove the ability to trade characters and skillpoints.
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