Ships & Modules

I'm setting out to make a pilgrim fit for solo skullduggery. Pyfa has been a great ally. I'm going to make some bullet points about why various stuff is fitted, feel free to ignore them and just look at the fits if you like. I have some questions at the end also.

My thoughts so far

• Capacitor is stable @ 62.1% with the medium repairer off and all neuts on. Cap stable at 29.8% with repairer on and both medium neuts off (small neut left on to keep target cap at 0). You can overheat the rep cap stably too

• Out of cap charges in 5 minutes and 35 seconds if they're used non-stop, total omni-tank of 108,192 armor points if repairer is ran non-stop too

• Armor thermic hardener rather than second EANM in order to have bonus vs phased plasma (afraid of capless guns that can wrecking shot) and gallente drones (most common among ratters I'm guessing.)

• 335 omni tank per second tanks 5x medium/3x heavy drones with Gallente droneship bonuses, overheated repairer tanks 5x heavies. Bonus tank vs ogres/hammerheads due to high thermal resist

• MWD for escaping bubbles, AB for speedtanking missiles and general going fast during fights

• Capacitor booster because a passive capacitor regen fit can't fit an active tank plus neuts (also provides panic-cap if I get capped out and need to warp out)

• No nosferatu because the objective is to keep the target at 0 capacitor, where a nos will be pointless

• 17.2k makes it pretty hard to 1hit volley it, I don't think maelstrom arty can hit much higher than that (might be wrong)

I wondered if there's better tank to be had by removing the Damage Control, which led me to

Adaptive armor hardener pilgrim

• Reactive armor module takes 4x 5-second cycles = 20 seconds (17 if overheated) to shift all its resists into whatever damage types are hitting your ship

• If only one damage-type is hitting it, it gets the equivalent of a Selynne's armor hardener in that damage type (60%)

• Maximum reactive armor'd tank vs EM (the ship's resist hole): 477.5 hp/s with repairer unheated, 610 with heat

• vs explosive (the ship's strongest resist): 795 hp/s, 1017 with heat

• Swapped out 1x nanobot accelerator for auxiliary nano pump in order to free up the cap to run the reactive armor hardener

Questions

Fit #1 or fit #2?

What would you change?

Ship's main threats? (I'm thinking drones, light missiles and wrecking shots from artillery currently)

If an artillery ship has all of its artillery guns grouped together, and it gets a lucky 1% wrecking shot as I'm orbiting, will every gun in the group inflict the wrecking shot damage (potentially instakilling me), or will only one of the guns inflict that damage?

If I damage myself before going into combat, will the armor hardener be pre-hardened to that damage type, or does it reset when outside combat or something? Also is there any way to actually self-damage besides with an alt? (basically would just use this to see what ammo/drones a ratter is using while cloaked, warp out and damage self with that damage type to pre-harden, then warp back in and be extra tanky)

They are indeed T2 rigs already though, guess you missed 'em.

Problem with stratios for me is it doesn't have the cap pressure to cap out a ton of things that this can. And the tank differential probably isn't very big when the tracking disruptor is taken into account.

I like type 1, type 2 relying on reactive armor plates is.... just not my cup of tea.

Stratios is better in all ways except neut amount. Its what Pilgrim should have been imho

it's interesting but on your Pilgrim fits it's shown 312/315 m3 of drone cargohold been used

anyway here is the fit you may consider, you could swap DDA for thermal hardener, and swap thermal rig for another nanobot or either pump.

[Pilgrim]

Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane x2
Drone Damage Amplifier II

100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Imperial Navy Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Scrambler II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I x2
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II

Hammerhead II x6
Hornet EC-300 x6
Valkyrie II x6

Try that fit. I spent many hours on finding the most universal pilgrim fit. And this is what I got. All ship with active tank, sniper with fast ship or capacitor need gun will die quickly. Only myrm with 2 medium capacitor booster is exception. The main threat is passive gila and other bufor ship with dron, misile or pojectile gun.

[Pilgrim, Pilgrim fit]

Ammatar Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

I'm a fan of the ASB pilgrim. Neuts from 24km, points from 24km, goes some 2km/s and got 320ish dps. Armortanking a Pilgrim just seems... wrong.

Got a cap booster, thanks I'm fine. What does that Curse reference mean? Am I supposed to spring the trap while moving my 25km neuts into scramrange because another ship is darker?

But it has no afterburner, which is odd for something with a tracking disruptor. And having only one TD means it will always be vulnerable to either missiles or capless guns.

That's why I don't like the idea of shield pilgrim.

I'm not sure what you're referring to but Curse has 37km neuts and is built for kiting and to be shield tanked. Shield tanking a Pilgrim just seems...wrong and really inefficient not to mention your probably rocking a small cap booster which can't keep up with everything you're going to have running.

To OP:

Fit #1 or fit #2? Honestly neither, you don't need to be dual-propped if you're hunting with the Pilgrim in the way it was made to hunt. You also have next to no buffer and neither fit has a web. You're going to want some buffer to soak up some that initial damage you're going to take then when your in a comfortable orbit and have target capped out and TD'ing his guns into nothingness you can rep it back up with your repper. Your fits will explode before you even make it to that point. Also I web is a powerful tool on a Pilgrim, don't underestimate that.

What would you change? More buffer and get a web

Ship's main threats? (I'm thinking drones, light missiles and wrecking shots from artillery currently) Heavy drones and Sentry's will hurt you, however, with a web and some luck you can kill enough of them to bring the damage down to a manageable level with your bonused drones. Missiles hurt but probably not as much as you think, with a faction or deadspace medium repper you can get into some nice tight orbits with respectable speed to mitigate alot of the damage. Artillery ships should never ever be a problem for a Pilgrim. If you know you're going up against one, don't uncloak till your right in his face then his long range guns mean nothing with a solid orbit and your TD with a tracking speed script loaded.

Your worst enemy's will be other neut boats and things with high passive shield tanks; read: Gila

If an artillery ship has all of its artillery guns grouped together, and it gets a lucky 1% wrecking shot as I'm orbiting, will every gun in the group inflict the wrecking shot damage (potentially instakilling me), or will only one of the guns inflict that damage? Once again, know thy enemy. Long range guns should never be a problem for a Pilgrim that's flown correctly.

If I damage myself before going into combat, will the armor hardener be pre-hardened to that damage type, or does it reset when outside combat or something? Also is there any way to actually self-damage besides with an alt? (basically would just use this to see what ammo/drones a ratter is using while cloaked, warp out and damage self with that damage type to pre-harden, then warp back in and be extra tanky) Why waste precious time, get in there and kill the bastard before he realizes what you're up to and docks up!


Here is solid fit for you:
[Pilgrim, Chaos]

Drone Damage Amplifier II<----If you need extra tank, swap for a Damage Control
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Reactive Armor Hardener
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates

Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Script
10MN Afterburner II<------Bling this out if you can afford to, sometimes the extra boost in speed can mean a world of difference

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Gecko x1


Optimal Range Disruption Script x1
Tracking Speed Disruption Script x1
Navy Cap Booster 400 x24