These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

New PvE that will help RL research
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#1 - 2015-10-24 00:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
CCP, I just caught it in bits off themittani.com twitch, but if I heard that correctly (full presentation on Sunday), through new PvE linked to SoE, we will be contributing to mapping proteins.

As a protein chemist I have to say, massive congrats if I heard that right.

The ability of our activites in game to contribute to real world projects is something I never imagined a game would offer, but this is like Eve SETI (community contribution to science aspect of SETI) but for life science instead.

Blown away and totally awesome idea.

Hope I did hear that right; and Eve Forever if so:

https://youtu.be/bNGQ_Rjhr6g?t=302 (video of CCP Seagull's announcement). Thanks Jonah.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-10-24 00:20:55 UTC
Unless there is a way to interfere with someone doing this then it needs to not exist.

Like all those pvp kids who always cry saying it's the only way to play the game, being unable to kill someone while he's helping fight cancer is simply unacceptable.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-10-24 00:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Divine Entervention wrote:
Unless there is a way to interfere with someone doing this then it needs to not exist.

Like all those pvp kids who always cry saying it's the only way to play the game, being unable to kill someone while he's helping fight cancer is simply unacceptable.

Well if it does exist, this one little pvp kid might be a PvE convert to some extent. Might even repair my sec status if I need too.

The idea adds a whole new level onto gameplay that means what we do in game is part of something more significant.

Just as a concept alone that is a significant addition to Eve.

CCP Seagull mentioned the gameplay being linked into the Protein Atlas:

http://www.proteinatlas.org/
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-10-24 00:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: BirdStrike
Sounds like they are introducing the folding@home project, uses spare cpu and gpu cycles to run simulations and you get points based on the number of work units you do. Maybe the SOE version will have you orbit a beacon and award you LZp for the points you contribute or some such.

I don't know the exact details but lots of the overclocking community use the folding for benchmarking system performance while contributing so if they tie that into EVE it would be a great way to make the grinding actually produce something worthwhile beyond pretend internet space monies.


https://folding.stanford.edu

Protein folding simulations run by stanford.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#5 - 2015-10-24 00:40:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Very cool if correct. I have been hanging for some specific desaturase structures for years. Membrane bound is always so difficult to crystallise :(

I really like that it is specific PvE sites!

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Robertis Olacar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-10-24 00:41:37 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
CCP, I just caught it in bits off themittani.com twitch, but if I heard that correctly (full presentation on Sunday), through new PvE linked to SoE, we will be contributing to mapping proteins.

As a protein chemist I have to say, massive congrats if I heard that right.

The ability of our activites in game to contribute to real world projects is something I never imagined a game would offer, but this is like Eve SETI (community contribution to science aspect of SETI) but for life science instead.

Blown away and totally awesome idea.

Hope I did hear that right; and Eve Forever if so.


I remember Playstation used to do something similar with an app you could download called Folding@home or something to that effect. where you could let the app run as part of a network and contribute computing power to a Standford project.

Just checked you can still get this program on pc.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7 - 2015-10-24 00:43:44 UTC
BirdStrike wrote:
Sounds like they are introducing the folding@home project, uses spare cpu and gpu cycles to run simulations and you get points based on the number of work units you do. Maybe the SOE version will have you orbit a beacon and award you LZp for the points you contribute or some such.

Yeah I kind of hope that's the sort of thing.

There wasn't a lot of detail, so it might be initially more just accessing the data in the Protein Atlas and the images of already known information being linked into Eve, but even if that's the case to begin with, it would be great if this developed into a feedback process also.

So hyped, but without the detail, I'm looking forward to Sunday's presentation.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2015-10-24 01:24:16 UTC
@ Scipio, the relevant stuff starts at 5 minutes

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#9 - 2015-10-24 20:01:45 UTC
BirdStrike wrote:
I don't know the exact details but lots of the overclocking community use the folding for benchmarking system performance while contributing so if they tie that into EVE



I'm sorry, i used to oc back in the day when i was a boy, i even had watercooling and ****, and i would never oc while playing eve... if it happens to be an unstable oc and it crashes while in lowsec...


Well, you might not only toast your cpu xD

Because tities .
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-10-24 20:20:40 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
BirdStrike wrote:
I don't know the exact details but lots of the overclocking community use the folding for benchmarking system performance while contributing so if they tie that into EVE



I'm sorry, i used to oc back in the day when i was a boy, i even had watercooling and ****, and i would never oc while playing eve... if it happens to be an unstable oc and it crashes while in lowsec...


Well, you might not only toast your cpu xD


I was referring to including the folding at home into EVE, not overclocking....i was just referencing the oc community as that is where i heard about folding at home as a benchmarking metric.

But on a side note, the whole reason they call it a stable overclock is your system doesn't crash even when running at 100 percent for several hours. If you crash your oc rig running EVE then you seriously suck at overclocking given it wouldn't stress a 386..
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#11 - 2015-10-24 20:21:51 UTC
Apologies as my current connection isn't good enough to watch that video, but what is it that we get in return for contributing our CPU cycles and bandwidth? Or is that TBA?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2015-10-24 20:25:18 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Apologies as my current connection isn't good enough to watch that video, but what is it that we get in return for contributing our CPU cycles and bandwidth? Or is that TBA?
Isk and SoE LP.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-10-24 20:25:43 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Apologies as my current connection isn't good enough to watch that video, but what is it that we get in return for contributing our CPU cycles and bandwidth? Or is that TBA?


Reddit notes suggest SoE lp/isk.... Some sort of minigame mission or other.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#14 - 2015-10-24 20:30:13 UTC
That sounds ok, I guess

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-10-24 20:39:29 UTC
Puts the SoE ganktrain in a tricky moral dilemma if it comes to pass.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#16 - 2015-10-24 20:49:54 UTC
I bet you that was CCP's intention, messing with our heads

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
BirdStrike
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-10-24 21:03:02 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I bet you that was CCP's intention, messing with our heads


Stealth nerf. Crafty bastards. Next release will be human shield children and puppy modules for mining barges.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#18 - 2015-10-24 22:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
BirdStrike wrote:
Puts the SoE ganktrain in a tricky moral dilemma if it comes to pass.

I'm not a ganker, but if I end up in highsec to run these, with all those ships about, I'll be tempted to shoot one.

No issue for gankers I think. I'm sure like missions, there'll be plenty of time to reship and complete these and we have no indication yet if there is any out-of-station aspect to it.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-10-25 09:35:32 UTC
I'd be happy to introduce anyone to my alien. He's already said he'd give up some DNA. Alas. No takers.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Eternal Bob
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-10-25 10:11:31 UTC
As long as there's no in-game reference to this I think it's a cool idea.

Biomassing to free a char slot.