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Hyperdunking nerf on sisi, to the battlements!

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Mojo Joo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#601 - 2015-10-22 15:33:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Mojo Joo
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Mojo Joo wrote:
Who are they? Obvious we will find in this category miners, missioners, traders and... the mighty gankers Shocked
So, the only logical conclusion who can be drawn is that all this people who are stuck in high security are different flavors of same kind of players, the CAREBEARS! Lol

Gankers leave HiSec, dear. I guess they're not carebears after all.

Nice try, though.


Most gankers don't leave hisec, dear. And ALL gankers gank people in hisec... I will drop my hat to CODE guys when i will see their first null sec freighter gank Lol Even a low sec gank will be praised...
But let's just get real, they are hisec dwellers by definition Blink
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#602 - 2015-10-22 15:34:14 UTC
Valterra Craven wrote:
Philipa wrote:

I want to be on the side when after a change I still have people playing with and against me, not freshmen every release.


Well then you should be all for changes to AG to allow them to want to play against you. As it stands ganking is a very one way street.


I agree, it's very much a one way street when you can make yourself 99.9% immune to ganks.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#603 - 2015-10-22 15:35:15 UTC
Mojo Joo wrote:
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Mojo Joo wrote:
Who are they? Obvious we will find in this category miners, missioners, traders and... the mighty gankers Shocked
So, the only logical conclusion who can be drawn is that all this people who are stuck in high security are different flavors of same kind of players, the CAREBEARS! Lol

Gankers leave HiSec, dear. I guess they're not carebears after all.

Nice try, though.


Most gankers don't leave hisec, dear. And ALL gankers gank people in hisec... I will drop my hat to CODE guys when i will see their first null sec freighter gank Lol Even a low sec gank will be praised...
But let's just get real, they are hisec dwellers by definition Blink


Ok then.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#604 - 2015-10-22 15:36:20 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Mojo Joo wrote:
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Mojo Joo wrote:
Who are they? Obvious we will find in this category miners, missioners, traders and... the mighty gankers Shocked
So, the only logical conclusion who can be drawn is that all this people who are stuck in high security are different flavors of same kind of players, the CAREBEARS! Lol

Gankers leave HiSec, dear. I guess they're not carebears after all.

Nice try, though.


Most gankers don't leave hisec, dear. And ALL gankers gank people in hisec... I will drop my hat to CODE guys when i will see their first null sec freighter gank Lol Even a low sec gank will be praised...
But let's just get real, they are hisec dwellers by definition Blink


Ok then.

Weird freighter.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#605 - 2015-10-22 16:02:44 UTC
"Even a low sec gank".

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#606 - 2015-10-22 16:15:30 UTC
admiral root wrote:
"Even a low sec gank".

Sorry. I get bored reading drivel, so kinda phased out at the back end of his post.

Yeah, CODE's kb's got lots of nice activity.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Valterra Craven
#607 - 2015-10-22 16:22:15 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Valterra Craven wrote:
Philipa wrote:

I want to be on the side when after a change I still have people playing with and against me, not freshmen every release.


Well then you should be all for changes to AG to allow them to want to play against you. As it stands ganking is a very one way street.


I agree, it's very much a one way street when you can make yourself 99.9% immune to ganks.



Which is an entirely pointless argument.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#608 - 2015-10-22 16:27:10 UTC
Valterra Craven wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Valterra Craven wrote:
Philipa wrote:

I want to be on the side when after a change I still have people playing with and against me, not freshmen every release.


Well then you should be all for changes to AG to allow them to want to play against you. As it stands ganking is a very one way street.


I agree, it's very much a one way street when you can make yourself 99.9% immune to ganks.



Which is an entirely pointless argument.


Are you saying facts are pointless, or just facts that aren't in your favour?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#609 - 2015-10-22 16:31:46 UTC
If I had a module which could instantly destroy any logged on target of my choosing anywhere in EVE with no repercussions, it would be overpowered. You could make yourself 100% immune to it by not logging in. Does that mean it would perfectly fine?

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Valterra Craven
#610 - 2015-10-22 17:02:19 UTC
admiral root wrote:


Are you saying facts are pointless, or just facts that aren't in your favour?


I'm saying in this case that fact is pointless when the argument is "content".
Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#611 - 2015-10-22 18:34:08 UTC
Mojo Joo wrote:
Most gankers don't leave hisec, dear. And ALL gankers gank people in hisec... I will drop my hat to CODE guys when i will see their first null sec freighter gank Lol Even a low sec gank will be praised...
But let's just get real, they are hisec dwellers by definition Blink


How about a dread?
Edriahn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#612 - 2015-10-22 21:59:56 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
]ROFL, hyperdunking high risk, **** off lol. Sure, some activities can be high risk, but let's face it, most of the people opposing hyperdunking being removed are risk averse kids hiding in highsec going after the softest targets they can find.

Maybe if you read some of the previous posta, you will understand why it is high risk. "LOL", "ROFL" or swear like a raging 12yo all you want, you're just proving you know as little about hyperdunking as you do about game mechanics high sec ganking in general.

Sorry to break it to you, but most of the people opposing hyperdunking are actually veterans from the largest 0.0 alliances that have risked their supercaps countless times and fly in high sec just to do something different, find new ways to to kill people and harvest the tears of noobs luke you.

Bittersweet tears, you can never have enough.

[20:46:05] Komahal > pl is cancer
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#613 - 2015-10-22 22:42:12 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
T-SQL


I threw up in my mouth a little.

When Sybase gave away their code base to the Dark Forces(tm) in Seattle (who would consider running a serious DB on windows?) they signed their own exit from the market.

Leaving an even more Evil Empire (as in Oracle and their fiendish contracts) and ex-Sybase, aka MS-SQL on the market.

We who are enlightened and wise are of course using Postgres ;)
You should read https://www.periscopedata.com/blog/count-distinct-in-mysql-postgres-sql-server-and-oracle.html

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Philipa
Doomheim
#614 - 2015-10-23 00:05:24 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
T-SQL


I threw up in my mouth a little.

When Sybase gave away their code base to the Dark Forces(tm) in Seattle (who would consider running a serious DB on windows?) they signed their own exit from the market.

Leaving an even more Evil Empire (as in Oracle and their fiendish contracts) and ex-Sybase, aka MS-SQL on the market.

We who are enlightened and wise are of course using Postgres ;)
You should read https://www.periscopedata.com/blog/count-distinct-in-mysql-postgres-sql-server-and-oracle.html

Shots fired... Be warned Explorer! The enlightened may also use rails transportation of large active objects, which can be used as cannonballs.
Cyclo Hexanol
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#615 - 2015-10-23 00:22:26 UTC
Far be it from be to state the obvious here but for the past 30 pages or so this is how the conversation has gone.
Miner: YOU ARE TOO OP LEET HAXX
Ganker: No you could literally do these 6 things when these things happen and I can't do garbage
Miner: TOO HARD YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO (Insert webz, logi, jams, safe route,small isk value loads, bulkheads,scout, ect here) I DEMAND EASY!!! CCP HALP!
Ganker: No seriously once people do this thing I literally warp off grid because it has no counter.
Miner: HAAAARRRRDDDDD CCP HALP!!!

We literally tell you guys exactly what to do to avoid shittery like this and you don't take our advice. I don't speak for everyone because there are some bears/AGs with some sense but this thread is giving me cancer. When I go on awoxing sprees I generally see 2 types of CEOs/Directors and those are:
1) Leadership that listens to my advice after the deaths/thefts
2) Leadership that just sees me as an enemy and blocks me/bans from TS
I go back to their killboards a few weeks later and guess which ones are still getting awoxed. The C&P pros in here aren't posting to be your enemy they are LITERALLY trying to help you.

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Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#616 - 2015-10-23 02:09:54 UTC
Sam Moneymaker wrote:

River of tears and bile.


We really need to just get those bingo cards done.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#617 - 2015-10-23 06:57:06 UTC
Edriahn wrote:
Maybe if you read some of the previous posta, you will understand why it is high risk. "LOL", "ROFL" or swear like a raging 12yo all you want, you're just proving you know as little about hyperdunking as you do about game mechanics high sec ganking in general.

Sorry to break it to you, but most of the people opposing hyperdunking are actually veterans from the largest 0.0 alliances that have risked their supercaps countless times and fly in high sec just to do something different, find new ways to to kill people and harvest the tears of noobs luke you.

Bittersweet tears, you can never have enough.
So wait, you're saying that veterans from null are flying into highsec to "harvest the tears of noobs"? Thank you for proving my point. Roll

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#618 - 2015-10-23 07:03:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Cyclo Hexanol wrote:
Far be it from be to state the obvious here but for the past 30 pages or so this is how the conversation has gone.
Miner: YOU ARE TOO OP LEET HAXX
Ganker: No you could literally do these 6 things when these things happen and I can't do garbage
Miner: TOO HARD YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO (Insert webz, logi, jams, safe route,small isk value loads, bulkheads,scout, ect here) I DEMAND EASY!!! CCP HALP!
Ganker: No seriously once people do this thing I literally warp off grid because it has no counter.
Miner: HAAAARRRRDDDDD CCP HALP!!!
That doesn't look like a biased viewpoint at all. I actually read it like this:
Miner: Hyperdunking should be removed as it's a way to perform ganking with minimal people that requires no additional manpower to scale, and breaks balance.
Ganker: BUT MAH HYPERDUNKING IS MAH RIGHT!!! I RAGE WITHOUT IT!
Miner: But we existed for years without it and you can still gank by getting some F1 pressing friends to help you
Ganker: NOOOO CCP CAN NEVER CHANGE FINGS TO BE GOODER FOR YOU ONLY US!
Miner: That's not very balanced
Ganker: CCP WE BE SO BAD IF YOU CHANGE THIS YOU REGRET IT, WE RUIN EVERFING!

It's a dumb mechanic and it being thrown the way of the bin will be a good thing. Stop crying.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Edriahn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#619 - 2015-10-23 08:37:38 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
So wait, you're saying that veterans from null are flying into highsec to "harvest the tears of noobs"? Thank you for proving my point. Roll

You mostly get GFs in 0.0, but the tears like yours are quite entertaining, even though the action is not as fun. Big smile

[20:46:05] Komahal > pl is cancer
Mojo Joo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#620 - 2015-10-23 08:41:27 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:

It's a dumb mechanic and it being thrown the way of the bin will be a good thing. Stop crying.


They cannot stop crying, but that is not a problem at all because gankers tears have a special and pleasant flavor Twisted