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Nyx for $1800!!!
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-10-20 22:28:33 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
What's the comparison of model kit to polystone cast?
How does grape compare to a bottle of wine?
Well I guess that answers that.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-10-21 02:08:37 UTC  |  Edited by: d0cTeR9
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
d0cTeR9 wrote:
Pretty expensive. I know, been building and selling finished model kits (some even r/ced) for 10+ years.

That's about what i would charge for making 1 unit, with electronics/paintjob.

That company either has really expensive base cost or it's ripping us off.

What's the comparison of model kit to polystone cast? Also same size and do you have an idea about the cost of the magnets to make it hover?

Edit: Last I looked at something like this it was a $3,500 model with a considerable amount of work done on electronics/lighting and being about the same size, the impression I get here is that the base model without that still costs quite a bit less than the polystone cast, so given equal electronics work I'd expect this to cost more.

That or the pricing on those models was far more out of proportion.


Not that much actually. Electronic module is $50, lights $50, magnet $30-$50. A good size 2 feet - 3 feet model kit is around $300-$400.

The star trek ships i build for customers go for around $1500-$2500. That's with the lights, sound, etc. Thats hand made, per order and not a company spitting out quite a few of them.

That company is wasting money on polystone casting and making the end-user pay for it. Then again... less work for them.

As someone that works with model kits, resin kits, etc, and has been for 10+ years, i find it's quite expensive for what you get. But like always, there's always someone willing to pay for something (and in truth, it's not like we have much choices for eve-online stuff).

Been around since the beginning.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-10-21 03:27:10 UTC
I meant to get back to this post earlier...more Otso wisdom for you.

$ince the dollar is only worth 28 cents, the actual cost in real money (not the fake US stuff) would be a paltry $64.

People aren't obliged to share the fantasy world of others. If people want to still believe a dollar is worth 100 cents, that's fine. But, it's like Santa Claus, when someone tells you the truth of the matter, don't go sobbing like it's HIS fault.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-10-21 03:50:50 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
I meant to get back to this post earlier...more Otso wisdom for you.

$ince the dollar is only worth 28 cents, the actual cost in real money (not the fake US stuff) would be a paltry $64.

People aren't obliged to share the fantasy world of others. If people want to still believe a dollar is worth 100 cents, that's fine. But, it's like Santa Claus, when someone tells you the truth of the matter, don't go sobbing like it's HIS fault.


This is the most broken understanding of currency I have ever seen.

It's like one of those trick questions you use to catch dumb people being dumb.

Like that video going around facebook where the guy asks his girl if - if they're going 60mph (60kph for the metric folk) how long would it take you to drive 60 miles (km for metric users again) - to which she is unable to determine that it will take one hour.

Point of that slight rant is to say that 1 dollar will ALWAYS be worth 100 cents, and dollars and cents are both US currency, therefore they retain the same relative value in relation to each other.

Now, has you said 1 dollar being worth 1 euro, then we have a conversation. However, since you also brought up the topic of "real money" despite having no understanding of currency in general, this conversation will likely turn into a debate on which currency is more like Monopoly money.

To which I say, Dinar (Iraqi Currency) is most like Monopoly money both in aesthetics and likely value.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#25 - 2015-10-21 04:00:33 UTC
Are the forums getting more esoteric of late, or am I just completely out of it? Because I'm getting seriously confused trying to follow some of these threads today.

Mr Epeen Cool
Facedesk Eternal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-10-21 17:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Facedesk Eternal
I saw an unfinished model of this in the Project Triforce booth at New York Comic Con this year. They said they do have payment plans if you don't want to pay the $1800 upfront but was just fine walking out with my little $20 U.S.S. Appalachia (NCC-52136) I found at another booth.

The ship is actually floating, spinning slowly, about 2-3 inches above the platform with what I assume would be spin-stabilized magnetic levitation.
Hole Checker
Black Hole Navy
#27 - 2015-10-21 20:59:25 UTC
really don't see the reason for people being upset bout the price its worth the money honestly

Are you gonna write a letter to Mercedes cause their cars aren't as cheap as a kia?

just beacause you play eve and are poor doesn't mean the price is too high

Most people complaining are probably people who have to plex accounts if you cant afford a sub you really think you were gonna be able to afford this when they announced it
Inotee Tahr
Feed Team 6
The Glory Holers
#28 - 2015-10-22 14:58:38 UTC
Is that thing levitated by magnets? In that case I want one!
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-10-22 16:20:54 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
CCP didn't set the price, learn to business.

I challenge you to produce something of similar spec for less in a limit production run of 500 and still turn a profit.

There was already a thread on this.


Do you expect them to sell all 500? Shipping and insurance (it's a 1,8k piece, people will insure it) will bump this to 2k to get one. Limited edition increase the price of something only if the demand is high enough to justify the increase. What if they don't sell? Will they then slash the price because they have to get rid of stocks? Is the playerbase large enough to provide that many Nyx lover interested enough in this game to drop 2k on a model?

I could be completely wrong but I don't see them selling all units at that price to be honest...
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
#30 - 2015-10-22 17:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Seavey Allier
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
CCP didn't set the price, learn to business.

I challenge you to produce something of similar spec for less in a limit production run of 500 and still turn a profit.

There was already a thread on this.


Do you expect them to sell all 500? Shipping and insurance (it's a 1,8k piece, people will insure it) will bump this to 2k to get one. Limited edition increase the price of something only if the demand is high enough to justify the increase. What if they don't sell? Will they then slash the price because they have to get rid of stocks? Is the playerbase large enough to provide that many Nyx lover interested enough in this game to drop 2k on a model?

I could be completely wrong but I don't see them selling all units at that price to be honest...



I will sub your account for two months if any of these original 500 are available from the manufacturer (Not a resale on e-bay, not a re-issue) 4 months after they are available to the general public.

If they sell out in less that 4 months I'll donate a plex for good, or the equivalent to a charitable organization of your choice.

500 is a toe in the water. They will do a second run of these.
Edit: Well.....perhaps not a second run if they want them to retain collector value, especially if they have other EVE models in the wings.


Dan

Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-10-22 19:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
Edit: had a well written reply. Going into detail costs, engineering, and how one off production of custom built models is no different than five hundred if the overall labour involved is the same. Level of detail, design means complex multipiece casting that would be labour intensive, etc.

Sorry. I had a lot more, it errored on post or something, think I hit back and post by accident. But overall, I think the price is in the manufacturing, the electronics of it wouldn't be much. Make more, the cost is less, they just have 500 people to cover probably 10+ k just to make the molds?

They probably only think they can sell 500, hence the down payment. the initial investment is so high, they want to see if it is even feasable. If eve was a 1mil plus player base, bet they would make more and cost less. Example their halo things. It is all big name productions in their list, then eve.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-10-22 20:32:33 UTC
It's around the same cost as Forgeworld charge for a Warlord Titan, which doesn't levitate or come with any working electronics.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Paranoid Loyd
#33 - 2015-10-22 20:43:15 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Do you expect them to sell all 500?
I don't have access to the information required to make such an assessment but even if I did, how many they think they can sell doesn't have anything to do with my comments.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Marsha Mallow
#34 - 2015-10-22 20:58:45 UTC
Can someone buy one of these, then scrawl on the side DEATH2ALLSUPERCAPS and take a picture, cheers

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-10-22 21:41:29 UTC
I'm very disappointed in the Eve playerbase that nobody has bought all 500 and relisted them for double yet.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Paranoid Loyd
#36 - 2015-10-22 21:45:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Scatim Helicon wrote:
I'm very disappointed in the Eve playerbase that nobody has bought all 500 and relisted them for double yet.

Why waste 900K when you can gank the freighter?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
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