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A "Not if, but How" discussion SP

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ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#21 - 2015-10-20 17:27:15 UTC
Locked. There are plenty of threads about the SP changes already.

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ISD BH Supogo

Bughunter

Equipment Certification and Anomaly Investigations Division (ECAID)

Interstellar Services Department
Paranoid Loyd
#22 - 2015-10-20 17:30:29 UTC
In after the lock \o/

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-10-20 17:33:56 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Dabby Holder wrote:
People despise change.
I don't think it's entirely that, it's that people don't like micro-transactions and CCP are pushing pretty hard on alternate revenue streams now and this is just the next one. Buying a character had it's downsides, since you had to take the whole character, name, rep and excess skills. After this you will instead be able to just add to one of your existing alts when you want to do something else.

And quite honestly, it's surprising that CCP are going down this road, which begs the question, what other roads we thought would remain untouched will they go down in search of revenue?


This is basically what I've been saying.
CCP has always claimed that they will not allow players to buy SP as they don't want the game to become P2W.

However, they are doing exactly this, but they're scapegoating by putting the players in control of the SP production.
So, you need Aurum for the extractor. Aurum requires a PLEX. PLEX can be bought with isk but can ONLY be introduced into the game with real cash.
Players have always been against the purchase of SP. They all saw the bazaar as completely different, since there are limitation which have already been mentioned in this thread.

On top of that, my major issue is that CCP's proposed system favors new characters produced by vet players and actually has less benefit to newbros, unless they have plenty of real world cash.
Also, I have an issue with the diminishing returns. Since I've spent however long training 65mil in SP, I am now penalized for the time I've invested into my character.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#24 - 2015-10-20 17:33:58 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
In after the lock \o/


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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#25 - 2015-10-20 17:35:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
There are still more to lock, Supogo.

Including this one...for realz.

Mr Epeen Cool
Paranoid Loyd
#26 - 2015-10-20 17:40:02 UTC
Trash Panda!

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-10-20 17:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Risalo
Is it locked?

Edit... HAHA...

ISD lock fail... I guess even the ISD is subject to gank flips.
ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2015-10-20 17:50:57 UTC
Stupid button got stuck. Locked for realz this time.

ISD BH Supogo

Bughunter

Equipment Certification and Anomaly Investigations Division (ECAID)

Interstellar Services Department
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