Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Eve is in current state for various reasons, phoebe did tons of good and many bad items.
Idea is to bring back stuff that we lost during the Phoebe without loosing all good things that was gained during this patch.

Base concept of this idea is to create new way ( or more likely enhance ) we can move across eve universe , spawn new conflict point , and keep it balanced.

For many reasons ( to long to list them all ) this will not work in WH and higsec space.

I propose to introduce a Wormhole Stabilization Structure.
This one time use structure have sole purpose of stabilizing K to K wormholes as a permanent connection between 2 points of eve universe.
This new perma wormhole will inherit maximum mass from the original wormhole and will exist as long as the WSS structure is active - as it require fuel : 50 heavy water per hour.

If the fuel runs out or someone kill WSS - wormhole connection will be instantly removed and cannot be recreated.

Why this is balanced ?
- players don't have influence where , and when K to K wormholes appear
- structure don't have reinforce timer
- structure will have less than 500k of ehp on structure, so even small force can kill it and cannot be kept alive using remote reps.
- structure will provide unrestricted access to every one
- cost of the structure - around 1 bil - will block abuse on every possible wormhole
- no connections to higsec
- when active create a beacon visible to every one in system.
- (thx Lloyd Roses for idea) wormhole cannot be stabilized from K162 side.


How this will create new conflict:
- will give ability to move large amount of assets from one side of eve universe to another ( but this cannot be planed , and it is almost impossible to get exact connection from system A to system B)
- people will be trying to use this as a logistic route , again this never will be perfect and safe connection, so freighters and jump freighters will be dying as on the other side will be no safe insta dock
- there will be always group of players willing to keep some connection active , and opposite group of players willing to camp or kill it.

Like the sound, but rather call it a S199-stabilisation unit, and works only on the outgoing side. Price should be lower imo, and the lifetime shouldn't be expanded indefinitly, but should fit into a capture campaign (merely a week tops). Given you can *destroy* the established connection by both massing it or destroying it, it would make for a good conflict driver.

Interesting, though I'm not sure how necessary fuel is if the wormhole retains mass limits and the structure has such low ehp.

I was thinking about maximum mass that can pass, not the total mass - that will be removed from the calculation.
The only way to close this wormhole forcefully is to kill the Wormhole Stabilization Structure.

Point of keeping the mass limit is again is to make harder to obtain perfect connection , as small only wormhole will never allow you to move a battleship fleet.

Yes the wormhole will allow you to move 500 battleships, but you need only bunch of bombers to cut the supply line.

Someone is moving a battleship fleet to your space?
Sacrifice a dread to kill this structure almost instantly.

Fuel is to keep another aspect of the game live.
Let say that only member of the alliance that deploy the structure can put or remove the fuel.
This give us another way to disable this connection : use spy to pull out the fuel.



Yes and no.
Yes :
- you will be able to move large amount of ships and assets

No:
- because someone can easily remove this connection , so if you plan offensive on this connection you will fail.
- you cannot easily move back your ships - waiting for good wormhole to spawn can take ages.
- preparation to move this kind of fleet needs time, stabilized wormhole is visible as separate beacon , and you need to stabilize it or the wormhole will simply die.
- i liked the idea that wormhole cannot be stabilized from K162 side , so this make controlling this WH connection even more demanding.

Remember that this aspect of the game cannot be influenced by players.
We cannot decide where and when good wormhole will spawn, and any one can easily kill this kind of structure ( no reinforcement timer).

Yes this also can be interesting - slowing the decay.
But i think that dead end and tons of bubbles will not make some wh connection permanent.
No reinforce timer means that any group at any time can kill this connection .
When i was telling wing of bombers - i was thinking about 2-3 bomb runs on this structure - not the torps.

Remember that this work both ways , so you can sacrifice some ships to kill it , and enter the exit WH to kill WSS.

The pre phoebe mobility was allowing every one to move fast in every direction at any time.
This cannot be reliable way to move .

Let me see if I got this right....

You want to undo power projection so that we can have the big fights again, but we don't want to undo power projection because it was leading to a very stagnant null sec.

Isn't it kind of like standing up and sitting down at the same time?

Overall idea is interesting, but i fear it would be abused to become semi-permanent non-fatigue-generating jump-bridges. Two possible things to counter that:

• Make the fuel bay limited in size so that it may need to be fed at rather short intervals. There will be a moment when no one will be avalaible to fuel it, finally closing the WH. (May still be kept on ad vitam eternam with good enough logistic chain.)
• Make the thing consume more fuel as time goes on. That way, stabilized WHs will still have a max life, as the deployable will automatically shutdown the tick it needs more fuel than it can contain in its fuel bay. (Adjust consumption&fuel bay size to cap the max-life.)