Out of Pod Experience

Wat?

How did receiving a mission from a level 4 agent dictate that you should go mine in low sec? Not only that, you are aware Kernite can be mined in highsec right? If you do for some reason feel the need to mine in Lowsec (there is no reason to do it besides the challenge which you obviously are not up for) at least suck on a rock that can't be mined in highsec.

I do not say a thing like this often let alone in haste, but this statement by you in the context of online games in general and EvE online specifically is complete and utter bullshit.

I should have said "online game", where there is no face-to-face interaction. I apologize. -- Although, it does apply to some games, such as sports. Especially competitive people are probably the same way in their normal interactions.

I beg to differ, though of course, I only have my own perspective from which to make such an assessment. See, I don't like ripping people off. In fact, I used to do computer work for free because I don't like taking money from people for something that comes so easily to me. This comes out in how I play the game. I'm never the "bad guy" in games, multiplayer or not. I never cheat people, kill them, etc.

I have to imagine that someone who plays games like that thinks differently than I do, operates differently. Either they're incapable of recognizing that there's a person on the other end of the interaction, or they don't care. Either way.

You apparently missed the part where I said that it's not about the loss of property, but the quality of the people with which I am sharing the game (and again, so this won't be twisted, there are certainly good people here, too). I only detailed that because what's-her-face apparently didn't believe that my character is broke, which is something I stated during the attack on my ship.

Oh you're one of those people

Same tired old bullshit from somebody that chooses to play a game like Eve, then whines when it lives up to its reputation.

You weren't forced into anything, you had options; you could have turned down the mission and requested another, alternatively you could have tried another agent.

Do you really value your time that poorly?

In game I'm a pvper. In lowsec or nullsec, I would have tried to destroy your ship too. Not in a mean or malicious way on the other side of the screen, just in the way of playing the game my way and trying to have my fun. It's a competitive game, so in having fun that places me in situatons where I am competing with someone that has a different idea of what fun means.

So on the first sentence, I totally agree with you. The game has people who enjoy all different types of play.

However, the second sentence doesn't follow from the first by any means. It's just a different perspective.

PLEX for Good events, some of the community driven assistance to individual players, community gatherings, remembrance events for deceased members of the community, gifts of ISK and ships in game, etc. all represent the way that the community of people is extremely giving and caring on the whole, even when we shoot each others stuff inside the game.

There's a huge difference between how our characters interact and how people interact. The game provides for one and society/upbringing/morals/ethics provide for the other.

They are totally separate. Playing the game within the rules and having fun in our social time does not make us bad people outside the game. It makes us all quite normal.

Ultimately, the only thing that changed outside the game when your ship exploded was that a database entry in the UK was updated. Nothing of real value was destroyed. No one was really hurt and it seems from the thread that none of the attackers were anything other than normal people.

Thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience.

Yeah, I originally included Fanfest in my examples, but removed it because there are so many player gatherings where that is true.

Essentially what the OP is saying with:

Either they're incapable of recognizing that there's a person on the other end of the interaction, or they don't care.

Is that other people should consider his idea of fun and leave him alone, but it's ok for him not to consider their idea of fun.

It's a one-way proposal based solely on the concept that what he wants is more important that what others want.

No, I perfectly see how we are all able to say exactly the same thing and it was the very heart of the point I was making.

You want others to consider your fun, but you want no care for theirs. What you are complaining about in others is exactly how you are behaving.

The only thing any of us can do in the game is try to have fun. Since the game is competitive, that will create conflict and that is very much what Eve is about.

You trying to have your fun while others try to have theirs.

The follow on statement however tries to justify a view that your fun is somehow more righteous than theirs. This is plainly not true. Both you and they were playing the game within the rules. There is nothing wrong with that for anyone.

There's certainly no reflection on anyone as a person outside the game when everyone approaches the game playing within the rules.

Your form of fun is no more righteous than theirs.

Yet when your characters interacted, who was the person that raged and abused? I haven't seen anything in this thread to indicate it was them. As people, they seem to have acted perfectly reasonably.

If what you want to do though is go mine and build, then do it. No one is going to stop you from doing that. Doesn't mean there won't be loss and challenge associated with it, but no one will stop you or wish you ill for doing that. It's a valid way to play. So is pvp.
Just my 0.02 of course.