Ships & Modules

with my mael, i tried cap boosters, but i didn't like them, so i stuck with a recharger. the tank for me doesn't last long enough to get in range and kill some BSs, for example, the blockade i think its spawn 3 with 5-6 BSs 4 are long range, and i just cant get in range fast enough or do enough damage to kill them at range. its the maels base em/therm resists that get me, maybe i should try shield resistance rigs? as it can tank angels and mercs just fine (of course) or maybe even swapping the cap recharger for another hardener.

for a different XL SB i did have a pith - C type, but it didn't seem worth risking an extra 200m for such a marginal difference. i may look at the pricing of the dread curistas one though, and i will most likely try a MWD. but will the increased sig make me take much more damage?

I think the maelstrom is the best route for now. The fit you posted earlier is pretty good but I'd throw in a cap booster instead of a cap recharger and replace the shield boost amp with an invul field.

i did try 1200mm's didn't like them that much, but i can try them again, as for the cap booster i find it not very useful, i prefer to have my cap recharge more between reps as i pulse tank.

and the thing with t2 guns is all of the training, it may be worth it after, but 20 days skills are ridiculous, i only managed 10 days of cruiser 5 so far lol.

so i guess i should train for t2 guns while using my mael for now! thanks everyone

Thing is you always pulse your tank, just that if **** hits the fan you can tank waaaay more with a capboosted setup by running it flat out.

So instead of sitting there waiting for the cap to recharge .. slowly you can always just pop a booster and your fine. Normally i use.. oh tops 10 boosters and that is with me effing up or doing a really rough mission. But I understand not liking them.

Edit: just wait soon you will look back on 20 day trainings and realise it is the norm :) Bite the bullet it is worth it, barrage is just made of win.

Machariel really is a great ship for this. The Sleipnir also outperforms both the Mael and any Loki configuration if flown well. Maelstrom is next in the viability ladder, followed by the Loki. If you have to go for a Loki, this is the one and only fit I'd consider for L4s:


[Loki, Headerman Logu]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


Hammerhead II x4
Hobgoblin II x5

Not sure if anybody has pointed it out yet but Lokis are excellent for Vanguard sites in Incursions due to having a beast webbing bonus, get yourself a nice Loki setup, shield seems more popular these days but Im not totally sure, get some Faction webs maybe and you'll get yourself into Vanguard fleets no problem.

The Hoardes of frigates in VGs makes the Lokis web bonus and fast tracking high DPS weapons system very desirable, however I am not sure how popular it is outside of Vanguards.

http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=fit&id=8 Thats a good example, if you want to get into incursions, that site in general is excellent.

I have used a similar fit with great success.