Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Upgrade your skills bro .. and use a better ship / mods

IF you think scanning stuff in high sec is hard ... w8 till u get to null or wh space ( where also the good "boooty "is ) but for those who can scan .. even null or wh's are easy ..

So again ... time for an upgrade

Not bad at all. Some of you may remember the change to "scatter can" mechanic at relic / data sites ( does it still do that? been a while since I did sites). A group of us went out to try the new mechanics, one hacking, others blobbed together waiting for the can to pop, drinking heavily, small ships bumping into each other trying to get all the loot before it magically evaporated. A skill book here, piece of carbon there, a silly game mechanic that drove grown men ( notice I refrained from using mature adults as copious amounts of alcohol was involved ) to yellow boxing each other and eventually trying (some succeeded) to kill one another. A good time had by all. Moral... we took a bad game mechanic and created our own content with it. Just thought I would share that

Just popping in here to say that yeah, extra skill points makes scanning things easier, but like most things in game learning the mechanics as a player. We try to teach our newbies things like manually moving probes, how to use the different scan results (I.e why two red dots are better than one), trying to sniff out low traffic areas on the map that might be more likely to have more sites, etc. As for those skill points, make sure you put them in the right places (tip: save acquisition for last).

On the subject of loot, high sec sites are generally terrible. Time to dip your toes into some more dangerous space. Good luck

I move my probes individually sometimes to get that last 5% - skills are a bit lacking.

But what do you so when you have forum scanning trained to level 5.
Maybe they need to give us an advanced forum scanning skill we can work on.

OP go into the esc menu and turn on the old style map that will help.

Other than that I tend to agree with the higher skills and better equipment theory.

Sometime in the last week I inadvertently switch to my alt and I missed some replies. Whoops.

Why the question about the Gallente FW? I just got back to EVE and I need to understand it better and I haven't got to it. FW was not here last time.

Why ask about the FW? What difference does it make? Right now I am just trying things out to decide what I want to do. I am mining to build up reserves so it doesn't hurt so much when a ship blows up.

Also, take your imicus into a WH. The ship is so cheap and enemies so few, its the perfect time to make the big bucks.

I made this guide that might assist.

the guide

I have some exploration exasperation too, so I have some ideas for the exploration mechanics for changes to be added. I would like to see something in what would be the experience of hacking being a capsuleer in the ship, and that would make the exploration less routine.

The idea is based on how the objects at sites need to be approached in order to open them, because as they have been around in space sometimes for ages and possible been attacked at some point, they likely have some damage or malfunction. I imagine they can have one or more of these problems/challenges:

There are the ones that exist:
Security systems with the firewall and antivirus, and with the self destructing timer

In addition, I think one or more of the following could be realistic problems of the objects that are encountered on the sites:
No Power left
Malfunctioning cargo bay door
Damaged cpu (the Controls of the cargo bay door)

Each of these would have either an effect on your ship or give a technical challenge. For the new problems there could be either a challenge or effect on your ship, sometimes instead of the hacking minigame:

if the object has no power left - to spark the systems in the object you would have to sacrifice some of your capacitor.

Malfunctioning cargo bay door mechanism - Remote repairing puzzle. I was thinking this could be a reaction based minigame, pressing keyboard buttons, corresponding to parts and gears having to be repaired by a remote repairer. Perhaps not a dedicated remote repairer module, it could be an added functionality to the relic and data scanners. This minigame could be omitted though, instead just having the effect as if you were using a remote repairer through using the relic or data skanner.

Damaged cpu - you would have to use some of your cpu power

Hopefully these would add a bit less predictability to the exploring, as it would be random which one or ones of these you would encounter. You would also have to account for the added challenge of temporarily reduced cpu or capacitor. Bringing along someone would be an advantage as several of the challenges could be done simultaneously.

Since these things will likely make more time pass, there would be necessary with some balancing like maybe adding ecm bursts to high sec, or just make it harder in some way to d-scan you while you're at these sites, due to some interference from the objects at the site being so close to your ship. Another possibility is that the distance where you automatically are decloaked is increased when at these sites.

I would like to see exploration taken even further. If you could dock at the object and be shielded by the object while docked, like at a station, there could be the possibility for some very interesting gameplay. Maybe not possible at every site but at some special ones.

What do you consider decent scanning skills?

With a sisters launcher and sisters probes I rarely have to scan more than 3-4 times for any given sig, even in WHs/Null