Player Features and Ideas Discussion

hey there,
I was thinking about eve guns and damage application a couple of days ago when this came to my mind.
I found what was lacking in eve was a weapon system that increases the damage output over time while being fired at a target, similar to smth like the Dust514 laserrifle for example.
A weapon like this would open up some interesting and fun options and adding to the gameplay in a positive way. so heres the idea:


- core feature: the weapon does increased damage over time when shot at a given target.

- drawbacks: the cap consumption increases drastically too

- the damage built-up is reset when the weapon is turned off or the attackers lock breaks etc.

variations of the idea are:

ammo consumption increases drastically. other drawbacks could be a speed reduction or other restrained ship movement when having the weapon active.

I was thinking a good timeframe for peak damage to be achieved could be smth like 30 seconds maybe a little more even.

the target shot upon would have some indication of the increasing damage (visually from the incoming weapon effects for example)

the weapon could have a fixed range without falloff wich would make it possible to dodge the damage increase by getting out of range thus resetting the damage build up.

the weapon system could automatically build up heat and instead of using ammo needed be repaired. greedy shooters would risk breaking the weapon by overheating.

i dunno if its possible to do the increased damage over time, implementation wise, in eve but there could maybe be a way to increase the rate of fire or other parameters to achieve a similar effect.

I was imagining a fleet fight where the logi had plenty time to lock a fleetmember for repping but struggling with the damage build up of incomimg fire. kinda as a contrast to alpha damage weaponry. Or a scenario where the logibros would actually energytransfer to the dps wing so that they could keep up their built up damage projection.

that weapons system would need a cool name too. i was thinking that a LASER or energy-beam type of weapon would come to mind first so i made up my mind in the other direction and came up with a micromissile swarm (always loved those in the movies. macross etc.) so the name i would give that thing would be smth like: "Impact Multiplying Micro-Missile Launcher"


how do you like the idea?

As new weapon system I would have to say no.

But a a future change to the way laser weapons work I would be, drooling over this change.
3 Weapon systems have instant damage
1 weapon system has delayed damage
1 has delayed starting than instant

I think that once brain in the box came out, this would be amazing change for laser weapons. Specially for beam lasers -

Not a fan of this, can you say gankers new favorite weapons. To prevent that the starting damage level and the time required to build to max would have to be balanced so the total damage done over the first 15 to 20 seconds of firing was identical to current weapons systems. It could be done easily but how would that affect the weapons use in other areas of the game?

Some further thought for discussion.

The logi side has me wondering as well. There is much angst about logi and how it has become a required portion of fights and there are many proposals being put forth on how to minimize the affect of logi. Yet these weapons would place even more emphasis on logi to be used for cap transfer and increasing the need for remote reps.

Since reloading breaks the firing sequence would the damage reset every time the weapon had to be reloaded?

I know that EvE is not about being true to real life but virtually every weapons system in existence has constant damage over time or in many cases even reduced damage over time due to heat build up. Just wondering how you justify these weapons going opposite to that?

I don't see a consideration made for tracking. It seems something of this sort would have inherently bad tracking compared to a similar 'sized' weapon?

id say tracking and "size" of the weapon would be equal to others in its class (a small tad better then rails is what i feel would work).

dont get me wrong this aint no idea to just theorycraft some OP weapon. the stats dont matter at this point. its just the idea that i feel would augment weapon applications we so far have in eve.

regarding ammo id either say none at all (cap), or cap boosters (could work like ASBs where the gun starts using enourmous amounts of cap once the boosters run dry) or just a regular ammo type (as the rate of fire would be fixed the max amount of ammo loaded would increase with skills and thus elongating the total weapon firing time)

if we consider peak damage reached after 30secs for example id say ammo should make the gun run for 1:30 and with max skills for 2:00mins or smth around that line.



i dont consider myself having angst about logi and this weapon type would (if well balanced) neither favour a pro-logi or contra-logi side. what it would do tho, it would change the way fleets equipped with this weapon would call their damage. at the moment what i feel happpens often is that a target is called and if its not downed very quickly and/or catches reps another target would be called primary. as soon as the main damage is applied both the dps and opponents logi side know if that target can be held up by reps or not. if the reps hold a target caller can choose to either make his dps wing overheat for that tad more damage or quikly switch to another target to down it before reps land.
the increased damage over time would change this up a little. could be fun for the logi wing too.