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Ship reworks

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Zockhandra
Canadian Bacon.
Honorable Third Party
#1 - 2015-09-28 19:27:51 UTC
Just a quick post around here to see what people think would be the ships that mos need reworking (just out of curiosity really).
Included with my own list based on texturres (those wierd barely visible antennes) and pirate galleons! (yes Mr.Rupture i'm looking at you.

-Please note, inspections were undertaken on maximum graphics using a Geforce GTX 970 overclocked, so all detail should be visible-

I've gotta say i really like the reworks so far, particularly with the Apocalypse hull and variants. With an appreciation for the Blackbird hull (it truly reflected a logical and realistic design).

So without further ado, let me get to my list of ships with why i think they could really use some Meta level: CCP, love.

1. The Armageddon-
The Armageddon has had a strong image in every region of New Eden, from the humble Navy issue to the frightening Bhaalgorn, it is and remains a very recognized hull. Even from a distance it is easily recognized, but upon closer inspection (particularly on the navy variant) it becomes very clear that the 'Geddon' and its paint job are quickly approaching the repainting period, with the turret elevations looking well...Lacking (sorry about that!) There is an awful amount of fuzz around the hull lines and creases and it really doesn't look good.

2. The Rupture-
The Rupture might hold a very special place in most pirates hearts, its fast it hits hard and its shape strikes fear into those who see it, because it envisions.....Right angle triangles (be honest most people are scared of math). This ship has elements that are nicely done (such as the galleon style cabin at the back) But i personally dont feel that this ship model is particularly fulfilling to fly.

Now this isnt down to the shape that much, but more the size. I find it can be quite difficult to remember that the rupture is indeed a cruiser sometimes, and its shape from a distance.....Is not exactly one that is particularly impressive....Nor does the design seem to make much sense. Perhaps taking shape inspiration from combat drones would give and example of what speed can be shown as?

3. The Celestis-
The Celestis is somewhat of an odd cookie here, Its actually very nice on textures, sporting a very pleasing set of shades and metallic surfaces. But it seems somewhat confused, the design seems very alien even for Gallentean Architechs. Whilst it sports the same windblown face as the Tristan (which was an amazing rework CCP Great job) Its VERY Curvy and (similar to the rupture) quite blobby to drive in despite being quite small.

And that concludes my top 3 for my list, I welcome all opinions on this and am curious to hear what you think. If you dont feel like replying here, please feel free to contact me ingame.

Fly Safe

Z

Shield are red, Armor is too, i slapped my heavy neut, all over you. Fingers crossed, broken shattered and burned, across from the bubble and into your hull.

Valacus
Streets of Fire
#2 - 2015-09-28 19:46:51 UTC
Please, for the love of god, rework the Aeon. It's like they had two ship designs they liked and couldn't make up their minds, so they slapped the two together and called it good. It's like the cross between an egg and a Archon.
Zockhandra
Canadian Bacon.
Honorable Third Party
#3 - 2015-09-28 20:20:48 UTC
Valacus wrote:
Please, for the love of god, rework the Aeon. It's like they had two ship designs they liked and couldn't make up their minds, so they slapped the two together and called it good. It's like the cross between an egg and a Archon.



Aeon does seem rather.... Out of place, but then again the Avatar also deviates from traditional design. That said its much harder to design larger ships, as they dont emulate speed or agility, usually just brute force, and it can be quite hard to represent that in a creative manner.

I do however agree, the Aeon could use atleast a modification. Maybe if it were made to look closer to something with Spires and cathedrals that towered above vast hangar bays, a true symbol of blessing upon the dogs of war. Or perhaps a design that closely resembles a majestic structure that moves with slow. but an absoloute presence.

Thankyou for your Contribution

Shield are red, Armor is too, i slapped my heavy neut, all over you. Fingers crossed, broken shattered and burned, across from the bubble and into your hull.

Reah Darknorth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-09-28 21:04:36 UTC
Geddon is fine, Rupture is fine. I mean maybe some small tweaks as far as "polishing" goes but the Geddon is one of the coolest ships ever and the Rupture is actually quite cool looking as well (especially with Valklear Glory paint job)
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#5 - 2015-09-28 21:11:42 UTC
I've always hated the glider look the Slasher and variants have. Just smash the damn thing down already.

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-09-29 00:40:36 UTC
Osprey family, cuz it's ugly as ....

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-09-29 07:36:53 UTC
BHAALGORN!!!......

Because i want it to have its own unique model :p

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2015-09-29 09:03:33 UTC
Looking at recent reworks (mainly 'phoon), great times ahead.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#9 - 2015-09-29 09:06:15 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
I've always hated the glider look the Slasher and variants have. Just smash the damn thing down already.

You won't like new models then, even more glider.

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#10 - 2015-09-29 09:13:47 UTC
The rupture makes me sad every time I look at it.

plz ccp, plz.

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Zockhandra
Canadian Bacon.
Honorable Third Party
#11 - 2015-09-29 13:29:47 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Osprey family, cuz it's ugly as ....


Another strange bird thats been around for ages past, though with this ship i imagine its difficult. In many ways it seems to take design aspects of the Raven (namely the multi-singlesided wing). So in some respect i think that the relationship between designs should be maintained. But i fully acknowledge that they ospreys (maybe even the raven) dont quite fit in with the new reworks.

This is mainly due to the Shaders and metallic effect (which i find awesome by the way) But its also down to the models. Many of the reworks have taken to more defined and sharp edges, (with exception to the very popular Dominix). Even then the Dominix feels like its got more muscle and thickness to it. Where as the older designs feel and look much lighter (which may be down to the large amount of space they dont use effectively). A key example of this is the new and old 'Apoc' CCP reduced the downward pillars and bony ribcage of the Apoc and filled its belly out. This resulted in a much more bulky ship without too many random pointy bits (and yet the downward pillars remained long enough to show the relationship and character) Which led to a fantastic rework.

Theres also the currently unmentioned note of Animations- Yes Warp animations
Minmatar have Engine sections that glow red,
gallente seem to like things folding back, or (as on the domi) showing a large powercore connect to additional propulsion drives along its side Bear
Caldari Seem to have favoured a 'Deployed' feel, Packing themselves up outside of warp to conserve hitzones and signiture radius, but whilst in warp 'spread their wings' almost as a testament to their names.

Personally i feel that the approach the blackbird took by 'spreading its wings' helps to maintain a unique relationship between the old/new designs. But the question remains,

Will the Amarr remain absoloute and so sturdy, that they feel no need to implement 'warp modes' and instead prefer to apply their headstrong philsophy even to the laws of physics.?

Thankyou for your contributions so far Big smile

Shield are red, Armor is too, i slapped my heavy neut, all over you. Fingers crossed, broken shattered and burned, across from the bubble and into your hull.

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-09-29 14:22:00 UTC
Cause Amarr is the only Ones, the answer is obvious - yes they will remain absolute.

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Mabon Loubbo
Munimentum Infinitum
#13 - 2015-09-29 22:25:12 UTC
I think one ship that is just completely out of place, but not bad looking by any means, is the Caldari scorpion. Nothing but birds and mythical creatures and then you have random bug thrown in. It feels entirely wrong. I'd like them to throw on two more of the "tails", reverse the model so the "pinchers" are the thrusters, add an additional thruster between them, do some slight modeling and call it a Hydra. Now you have a three headed missile spewing machine where the back three thrusters are its "legs" and "tail".
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-10-03 07:44:14 UTC
Just realized after flight on my Mammoth.

All industrial ships, ALL of them are coming with outdated designs.

It is time to make them looks better.

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Thron Legacy
White Zulu
Scorpion Federation
#15 - 2015-10-03 08:02:14 UTC
revelation is like a glorified slice of toast
aeon is aeon
omen, dragoon and coercer not symmetrical

fix pliz
Reah Darknorth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-10-03 23:28:59 UTC
Thron Legacy wrote:
revelation is like a glorified slice of toast
aeon is aeon
omen, dragoon and coercer not symmetrical

fix pliz

I don't think they need to be symmetrical but the thing on the side of the Omen is too dumb looking and same with the Coercer

The asymmetry of the Dragoon is barely noticable
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-10-04 10:22:36 UTC
The Vexor / VNI / Ishtar's paint job could use some work as it doesn't look well nowadays with modern engines.
Mikkir
SHINKETSU Inc.
#18 - 2015-10-05 16:49:08 UTC
My list would be this:

1. Maller - I like the top profile, but the long face in the front needs to go.
2. Tormentor - The model isn't terrible, it's just too similar to the inquisitor.
3. Some of the caldari models - I don't want to look at them to figure out which ones because they are that terrible

I think we should make a new tormentor model that is the top half of the crucifier, and then they can voltron together. Bonus points if a giant blazing sword comes out the front and you can ram people with it.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2015-10-05 17:09:59 UTC
Hugin, the thunder chicken(osprey),omen(I actually rather like the design but the lines and angles could do with some attention imo),
The baddon I love but needs a higher res skin .

The punisher needs it's snagletooth straightened
MCCHAPSMASTER the3rd
Yacht Logistics
#20 - 2015-10-05 17:12:01 UTC
not going to lie i really want to see the geddon model reworked, the old model was fine back when it was mainly a gunboat but now with its focus on drones it looks like it doesn't even have the hanger space for a full set of heavy's
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