Missions & Complexes

OK some quick and dirty spreadsheet stuff seems to indicate the best applied damage (against a 30-40m sig & 100-1400 m/s target) in a "cheap" T2 Garmur fit is probably going to be Precision T2 light missiles and 2 x Rigor II rigs (assuming all relevant skills are at V) .

Just though I'd pop an update for anyone interested. This is the garmur I was running:

[Garmur, Team Burner T2]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System x3

Missile Guidance Computer II x2
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Polarized Rocket Launcher x3

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x2121
Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket x2721
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x3574
Caldari Navy Nova Rocket x1808

Absolutely demolishes all 4 of the team burners as is to be expected, especially with a 5% damage implant. However I do not have Rapid Launch V, Rocket Spec V or Warhead V (only IV). I figure the 5% implant about makes up for the missing skills.

So I tried the Enyo burner today with 2 T2 Ballistic Control Systems and a co-proc. Took a bit longer obviously and had to OH the launchers on the first logi but used 110 volleys to give you an idea (base rof 1.9sec) but was able to do it with killing only the one logi easily enough. With all V it is entirely possible to do all 4 (Probably) burners with a pure T2 fit so you don't have to worry about ganks or losing the ship so much. Probably what I'll be running from now on.

Edit: Works on Jag as well though I had to kill both logis.

So what am i doing wrong my first runs at first burner mission and been reading up alot and watching some videos.
So far lost 3 ships really ....

Mission i am trying is

Objective
Destroy the Burner Ashimmu and its henchmen.

On videos ive seen people land over 100km from these guys and they are spread out... once i jump threw gate i land right on top of them all three are around 5-7km from me... i instantly try to mwd away from them but its almost instalock and on deimos a little tank and feeble attempt to first mwd away but no luck so then engage but drained and killed. Then i tried with worm to mwd away but they instalock and kill me aswell.. .agh so pissed is my mission bugged or i am using wrong ships .. i mean all vides ive seen with this mission these guys are spread out and engaged 1 by one.. but here they are tight together and i have to fight all 3 at once.. So Burner missions is really this hard?? Or this is a complettly different mission and i need another type of ship/fitting ?


So i am eager to do the burner missions .. but i really dont want to lose any more ships and need some more input here.


Below my ships i tried this mission


My worm setup
[Worm, Worm Burner]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

1MN Afterburner II
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I

Warrior II x5

Optimal Range Script x39
Targeting Range Script x39



And My Deimos setup

[Deimos, Deimos Burner]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
True Sansha Medium Armor Repairer

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Warrior II x10

Void M x3600

At what range you orbited with that fit?

EDIT: did some eft and the fit looks way better with polarized rocket launcher and javeling rockets, T2 bay thrusters, T2fuel cache, T1 flare and ofc +5% relevant missile dps/range implants. 236 dps at 46.7km. My pilot uses full geno set and has perfect skills sense Rocket spec 5. Will post latter after testing. Also - due to the high garmur speed and depending on the range of the teams webs you can go ab instead of the mwd

Anyone can think of a way to make bombers work for teams?

18km

Oh and to your other post, don't use Jav rockets... because then you are wasting a mid ona SeBo.

Cal Navy Rockets or Rage. 22-25km is all the range you ever need.

These days I lean towards the MGuide but that is just because you can throw a range script in if the Logis end up way out of range due to their strange orbit of the boss.

you can get plenty nice loot. 20 missions are nuts.

i got so far some cn copros, cynabal bpc, dram bpc, in heat sink among a lot of hardeners, mwd etc.

basically every faction item pops up.

Just ran an Enyo team with polarized rocket garmur - its a whole different game now

you tried this vs a teamburner ? which one ?
beside that your shield and rocket skills seems not ready for that.

and the hawk has his bonus on kinetic which i never use for teamburners. with other ammo you have way less dmg to scratch the hull.

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