EVE General Discussion

I can only assume ganking as well mining... no

and ganking implies ships of actual value, not awful fit t1/2 mining barges

From what I have read on these forums, ganking is elite level pvp that takes lots of time, planning, skill, alts, friends, luck and so much more

do you have what it takes?

saying that, neither rocks or barges shoot back really so....

It is my observation that the ganking we've witnessed these last couple years are the proactive way for some subset of the game to tell another to either:

Quit
Leave highsec
Or learn to fight back.

Any one of those results is arguably better for the game by trimming some of the fat and culling the weak before they get too entrenched and start pretending like they matter in the grand scheme of things.

Here's a tip - you either learn where you come from and stop the bleeding or you continue to die a slow death with every gank. This post is not directed at the OP it's more of my summary feelings on the matter from years worth of watching this train wreck in slow motion. When people advocate to nerf highsec they're not trying to hurt you they are trying to save you from highsec itself.

I respect ganking, without it eve would be (at least for many) a single player collect purples, level up your raven, and quit game, because what else are you going to do? Also it would be really weird if HS was safe and low/null was as is. I can't even imagine how much isk would flow into the economy. the positive feed back loop of farm, so you can farm more, and then farm more bleh! Not to mention the whole introduce power creep so more farming!

I've played other games where all I want to do is shoot someone but they are "friendly" so I can't do a thing, and that isn't even counting pve servers.

at the very least ganking can remind people they aren't playing a single player game. Hopefully they learn to fight back, but I do imagine for many it leads to quitting. hard to adjust your whole attitude to a game.

ganking filters afk miners ergo less afk miners ->good thing . I still hate gankers^^ they are like wasps or spiders. people dont like them but they are useful (dear spider friends, I like spiders too, i was just generally speaking...)

Miner ganking is but the most basic form of highsec PvP. Judging all of it by its most simple element is like judging all lowsec PvP by the explosion of a novice FW bear with a Hawk. Miner ganking is an ideological thing, you won't net much from it. THis activity is inherently not profitable, even though CODE. alliance does provide an SRP.

We can roughly compare mining (or any kind of PvE grind) and ganking to public service and self-employed business, respectively. Being a public servant gives you a stable job and income, all the social security you might need, but you will never see your face on the cover of a Forbes magazine (being an honest public servant, that is). An entrepreneur, on the contrary, has to think a bit out of the box, and his work is more chancy. You should be prepared to have no income at all for days or even weeks, even if you are working on a project with great potential. Yet, with persistence and a bit of luck, you will stumble upon something (or, likely, someone) who will give you billions and lots of excitement along with them.

If you wish to learn more, feel free to convo me or fire an evemail in the game.

And don't let the shiptoasters have control over your best judgement. Ther're just jelly that someone else in this game is having fun.

It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact.

I think one of the most disturbing things I've run across on the internet so far in my life is the fact that there might be codies who actually believe what they say. Not that there is, just that there might be. Because that should scare anyone.

That said, no you will probably not make all that much isk mining or ganking miners. You might occasionally get lucky while ganking mission runners for a half decent drop but you generally need more than a few people so after splitting the loot and taking into account time and security drop... That said in my oh, 3 years? of running missions on/of I've never seen someone get ganked, nor heard of nor experienced it myself. I baited some codies into trying to gank my alt once, they failed pretty hard.

Ganking greedy/lazy haulers might be a slightly better bet, I know people make a decent living off that but again, all luck in being in the right place, right time and again, a LOT of waiting around doing nothing. I've moved around my share of loot around eve but again, never lost a load to a gank yet. Then again I take precautions, use the right ships for the right tasks, have undocks, those kinds of things.

If you want isk look at mission running, incursions, Wormholes, Null ratting, maybe manufacturing, exploration, FW. Some (not all) of those even include regular chances for actual pvp if you have the balls for it.

*Snip* Trimmed out an offensive and provocative remark. - ISD Atomic Dove

How about you do both?

Mine with one toon, and use the other to harass the other miners in your belt.

stupid bait thread trying to collect miner tears.

Lock thread 90 suspend OP.