Player Features and Ideas Discussion

An interesting discussion is producing the following idea (which is probably only worth the read if interested in the premise of an EVE-like game with multiple times its average PCU):

What Plausibly Happens with Removed SP
Capital Ships: The Game
Capital Escalations, Carrier/SuperCarrier ratting.. yeah. Mineral prices skyrocket like crazy due to the mass ISK generation and capital ship construction
Supers fighting supers to protect super fetuses
B-R gameplay consistently
Subs flooding the game from all the stories

Why is this relevant? What makes this seem interesting enough for its own thread?
A common idea is that B-R stories are a main and effective advertisement. Setting up lots of skirmishes is supposedly CCP's main design direction.

Per CCP, "There's a ton of information [and evidence] on how intrinsic motivation is much better for creativity and engagement. Extrinsic rewards erode motivation, focus the gameplay on the reward structure, help de-track other goals and ideas, and develop dependence on those rewards for a guide." An "experience" system (SP) is an extrinsic reward.

Expectations
Why would fresh subs expect B-R? More on point, why would fresh subs come for B-R? Some studies would list these game traits as fantasy, socialization, and competence. They're interested in the skillfulness of flying well, socialization and teamwork, and the story aspect of the experience.

So, what comes with that fantasy? Most spaceship-game progression is completely about flying bigger ships. That lines up with this game's story of massive capitals. Then there's the experience of flying multiple types of ships, in support of the capital fleet, protecting their production -- competence and mastery.

What happens where none of these expectations are met, through limited engagements and fitting and ship options? So the expectations are "Capitals: The Game"?


Common Criticisms

Tidi

An abundance of capitals can be limited as necessary through ISK payouts like bounties or another tweak of their appeal; and there are already few enough reasons for merging a bunch of fleets in one place. Those capitals can be anywhere, and they'll get caught more regularly. If that still ends up in poor infrastructure response, it's probably within fix.

Rifters costing 50M

It's unreasonable, the idea that the market could support enough caps for over-inflating itself, especially from affording frigates. Either both are semi-affordable, or neither are. What's the probability, a few cap investments empty the market? Then what? It fills back up. This either stabilizes or stays that way or gets patched in some form. Characters benefit from keeping prices low, so there's plenty of reason for min-maxing whatever defines that. In this case, it's plausibly just mining and producing ships. This also has the benefit of providing that "I'm making ships" feeling and of evening out the supply vs the demand that's, purportedly, majorly in favor of demand.

There are also limitations on cap construction that can be dynamically enforced by strategy. X-Alliance is silent, probably farming? Better take their systems.

Alts Online: Security Status Becomes Worthless

Sec status could be tied to the account.

Other forms of "Alts Online"

One account allows one ship in space. More accounts require more subs. It's like asking what would happen if more subs joined the game.

Every ship being a faction ship or something

There are obvious limitations on ship production, including through LP, as well as limitations coming from funding options. What's the alternative, liquid ISK and assets keep stacking? The reason for spending ISK is a threat; and a threat requires initiative, which requires efficiency, which requires freedom.

Saved for calculations and other ideas

As posted, expectations are sorta why subs show up, and viability is a great reason for staying. How can a fantasy be fulfilled without feasibility? If neither roleplay nor expectations are fulfilled, why stay?

The whole of a sandbox's feature set is freedom.

Closed.