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Should CCP start shrinking the world of Eve?

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#61 - 2015-09-23 10:28:52 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
CCP seems to agree with that.


http://puu.sh/klbH0/7f112c9dc2.png


delete forum posting privilege for npc corps

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Samir Duran Xadi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2015-09-23 10:39:57 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
CCP seems to agree with that.


http://puu.sh/klbH0/7f112c9dc2.png


delete forum posting privilege for npc corps


Says the 2014 pilot.

Yes if they remove npc corps from the game after changing wardeccing mechanics. This pilot is much older than yours and probably has more isk and power than your entire corporation. Not everybody wants to slave away for scrublords.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2015-09-23 10:46:54 UTC
God forbid there is empty space in a space game.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#64 - 2015-09-23 10:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
CCP seems to agree with that.


http://puu.sh/klbH0/7f112c9dc2.png


delete forum posting privilege for npc corps


Says the 2014 pilot.

Yes if they remove npc corps from the game after changing wardeccing mechanics. This pilot is much older than yours and probably has more isk and power than your entire corporation. Not everybody wants to slave away for scrublords.


ok bud Big smile yet here you are, npc vet whining on the forums to shrink eve because you cant find a fight Cool

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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#65 - 2015-09-23 11:01:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
No, I can actually have at times a system to myself like I did in 2009 and while that makes you sad as you have to work for getting your fights, such a shame that, I love it as I can do more before the inevitable loser turns up to cloak up for a while before getting bored and going elsewhere.

The trick in this game is simple, find naff NPC 0.0 space, set up there with a ton of assets, build up a coalition of like minded people and prey on bling fitted mission runners in that NPC region, stop when they have taken too many losses so they replenish and use the naff system you are in to further develop your situation, when they have replenished their coffers then go harvest some more bling fits. Its rather fun, and the bling fits are from a nearby predatory 0.0 alliance that deserves this in a major way.

Every one of their bling fits that dies to my corp and my allies is payback for the number of times these people cloaky camped me, I am loving it greatly...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#66 - 2015-09-23 12:36:52 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
CCP seems to agree with that. Half sounds about right and of course it needs to be done very carefully while overhauling wormhole space altogether.


CCP FoxFour


Its a joke from either foxfour or someone altering his words, only the true dunderheads of eve believe this idea has any merit whatsoever.
Anthar Thebess
#67 - 2015-09-23 14:24:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Anthar Thebess
Have you considered a possibility to create new smuggler gate connections?
I already posted this multiple times - regions that are directly connected to lowsec have always something happening , but those edge ones are place where most of the players are dying.

Simple example , from my own yard.
Stain , gigantic NPC space is cut off from lowsec , like most regions connected to it.

Now if we could get a smuggler gate in a station-less system to lowsec , and in this system similar gates to systems in regions like :
- esoteria
- paragon soul
- period basis
- impass
- feythabolis

etc
we could bring back life to all those regions.
There will be always some group camping those gates , like poeple trying to fly thru them.
New people could easily come to Stain and try to contest all those regions.

Space is not to big - simply map is obsolete after all changes made to the game.

This connections could imbalance the introduction of fatigue , but lets not forget that passing by a single gate can be tricky , people can slow down , and even when they will manage to pass the defenders line , carriers no longer can make multiple jumps fast.

We don't need less space , but more "smart" smugglers gate that will reintroduce conflict to the eve universe.
Current sov systems requires high population , and promotes high usage of the space, but at the same time , it is quite hard to get fast to your enemy.
20 jumps - this is like 15minutes , make 20 jumps back and you just spent half an hour on moving - now find someone to shoot at while you have only 1 hour daily when you can sit so long at your computer.

Important thing is not how long you play eve , but how long you can play without a brake.


Trust me 20jumps in nullsec is nothing, and this is close neighborhood.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2015-09-23 14:26:15 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
CCP seems to agree with that.


http://puu.sh/klbH0/7f112c9dc2.png


delete forum posting privilege for npc corps


Yeah. People like me never have anything constructive to say.

That quote, depending on context is an example of a narrow minded and poor business sense. That would detract value. Any proper business would have one goal. Increase density by improving market value. Making eve smaller will not affect most players, it is a minor thing that would probably drive off as many, if not more players than it keeps and end result is a less attractive marketing tool.

CCP wants eve larger. That was entire reason for jump chamges.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2015-09-23 14:30:38 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Have you considered a possibility to create new smuggler gate connections?

We don't need less space , but more "smart" smugglers gate that will reintroduce conflict to the eve universe.


Myself as well. Non static covert jump bridges. Beacon only shows and access only given if blue to the controlling npc faction. Blue/red standing from a combination of pirate and security. Want a highsec one? Need to be minimum five standing from average of your faction and security.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Anthar Thebess
#70 - 2015-09-23 14:51:56 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Have you considered a possibility to create new smuggler gate connections?

We don't need less space , but more "smart" smugglers gate that will reintroduce conflict to the eve universe.


Myself as well. Non static covert jump bridges. Beacon only shows and access only given if blue to the controlling npc faction. Blue/red standing from a combination of pirate and security. Want a highsec one? Need to be minimum five standing from average of your faction and security.

Not this kind of smugglers gates - normal ones.
Maybe we could limit the capital movement by them .
Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2015-09-23 15:11:40 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
I don't think I've ever witnessed a playerbase in so much denial. Shutting your ears and singing la-la-la won't help.


This isn't EvE of Warcraft, but...


...here's a ♫ la-la-la ♫ for you anyway.

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Blood Thorn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2015-09-23 17:24:52 UTC
I just re-subbed after being out for over 2 years. I left because of how stupid null sec had become with massive old-boy alliances flying hundreds of super-caps, enriched by control over a few valuable moons.

I came back because of the new content that's been added, and because my old contacts have indicated that CCP is finally working on breaking up the old-boy network and making null sec back to what it should be. Wide open and free.

Shrinking the amount of systems would be a step in the wrong direction.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-09-23 18:23:57 UTC
Blood Thorn wrote:
I just re-subbed after being out for over 2 years. I left because of how stupid null sec had become with massive old-boy alliances flying hundreds of super-caps, enriched by control over a few valuable moons.

I came back because of the new content that's been added, and because my old contacts have indicated that CCP is finally working on breaking up the old-boy network and making null sec back to what it should be. Wide open and free.

Shrinking the amount of systems would be a step in the wrong direction.


The old boys are whining as to how they cannot counter small fast ships now dubbed "Trollceptors" and that sov is now frig combat. Woo hoo! Maybe time for them to focus on damage application instead of peak DPS. High track battleships ftw!

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2015-09-23 18:56:27 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
I don't think I've ever witnessed a playerbase in so much denial. Shutting your ears and singing la-la-la won't help.


I don't think I have ever seen such an explicit failure to provide "evidence" or "reasoning". Your opinions are terrible.

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Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#75 - 2015-09-23 19:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: 0bama Barack Hussein
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
I like my systems. Would you rather be like Elite Dangerous and have over 99% of systems be empty?


I agree a whole Milky Way with some 400 billion stars like in ED would be a bit too much for EvE, but I would love if new gates would bring access to actually many many new systems (sorry OP!).

More in numbers and more "hidden" than wormholes, where one could make his own base, and very long range jump bridge(s), and then hide that system again from others by destroying the gate that allowed access / exit there first, if fast enough...

Maybe even mixed with some time spent flying in warp between jump bridges (and system objects), that only those with bookmarks know, if seriously trying to hide that place.
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2015-09-23 19:49:12 UTC
no !

troll load is strong with you

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

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really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Nyu Kaminari
Doomheim
#77 - 2015-09-23 20:10:37 UTC
Ow!!! MY EYES!!!!!!

Artemis Ellery Sazas
Shock and Awe Inc.
#78 - 2015-09-23 20:33:32 UTC
High sec is the only thing that needs some shrinking, each faction should be separate and surrounded by low sec systems.

CCP could do some easy lore for the event. Large fleets of Drifters assault the edge systems of Amarr, Minny, Gallente and Caldari territory (all at once or one faction at a time), causing large numbers of Concord and Faction Navy to be destroyed. This leaves Concord and Navy low on resources and must pull back more toward the trading hubs of each faction. The outlying systems start to lose sec status as they can no longer be patrolled and maintained by Concord and Navy, therefore becoming lawless, ie low sec. CCP is much better at lore than I and am sure they could come up with something. Big smile

I don't know if this idea is good, but I think it would be a most interesting change to the landscape.
Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#79 - 2015-09-23 21:17:02 UTC
Eve needs more space, not less. A lot more.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#80 - 2015-09-23 21:31:38 UTC
Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:
High sec is the only thing that needs some shrinking, each faction should be separate and surrounded by low sec systems.

CCP could do some easy lore for the event. Large fleets of Drifters assault the edge systems of Amarr, Minny, Gallente and Caldari territory (all at once or one faction at a time), causing large numbers of Concord and Faction Navy to be destroyed. This leaves Concord and Navy low on resources and must pull back more toward the trading hubs of each faction. The outlying systems start to lose sec status as they can no longer be patrolled and maintained by Concord and Navy, therefore becoming lawless, ie low sec. CCP is much better at lore than I and am sure they could come up with something. Big smile

I don't know if this idea is good, but I think it would be a most interesting change to the landscape.


I've always said low sec needs to be the norm for empire, high sec should only be around the capitol systems and certainly not whole regions.

Also, Yulai needs to be brought back as the center of trade and commerce.

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