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Noob Ventures into Low Sec. You can guess the outcome
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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-08-13 21:39:34 UTC
Valerian STA wrote:
A Minmatar goes immediately to null sec and becomes a slave to Lan...


Corrected that for ya bud Lol


Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Valerian STA
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-08-13 21:53:16 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Valerian STA wrote:
A Minmatar goes immediately to null sec and becomes a slave to Lan...


Corrected that for ya bud Lol



That's why I never go to null...
Maybe when I grow up... Big smile

Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
Tanuki Two
Caprican Autocracy
#23 - 2015-08-14 02:24:26 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
remote sensor boosters usually on a T3 cruiser bonused for it.
Multiple local sensor boosters with scan resolution scripts and appropriate rigs will also achieve pretty much the same thing.


For example the following, specialised, fit can lock a pod in around 1 second, it'll lock everything else in under that.
[Cormorant, Reach Out And Pod Me]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Warp Disruptor II

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I


That seems almost unfair.....which is par for the course in EVE.

On the advice of another player I've started using an alt to check the bottleneck systems for gate camps before entering lowsec. Strange enough, once I'm out of the bottleneck systems I haven't really had any problems staying alive. Not sure if I'm just getting lucky so far, or following basic rabbit rules is super effective.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#24 - 2015-08-14 06:03:52 UTC
Tanuki Two wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
remote sensor boosters usually on a T3 cruiser bonused for it.
Multiple local sensor boosters with scan resolution scripts and appropriate rigs will also achieve pretty much the same thing.


For example the following, specialised, fit can lock a pod in around 1 second, it'll lock everything else in under that.
[Cormorant, Reach Out And Pod Me]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Warp Disruptor II

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I


That seems almost unfair.....which is par for the course in EVE.

On the advice of another player I've started using an alt to check the bottleneck systems for gate camps before entering lowsec. Strange enough, once I'm out of the bottleneck systems I haven't really had any problems staying alive. Not sure if I'm just getting lucky so far, or following basic rabbit rules is super effective.


Once you get past the bottleneck systems you can go hours without seeing anyone else. And basic rabbit rules are super effective.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#25 - 2015-08-14 07:26:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Tanuki Two wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
remote sensor boosters usually on a T3 cruiser bonused for it.
Multiple local sensor boosters with scan resolution scripts and appropriate rigs will also achieve pretty much the same thing.


For example the following, specialised, fit can lock a pod in around 1 second, it'll lock everything else in under that.
[Cormorant, Reach Out And Pod Me]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Warp Disruptor II

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
Small Targeting System Subcontroller I


That seems almost unfair.....which is par for the course in EVE.

On the advice of another player I've started using an alt to check the bottleneck systems for gate camps before entering lowsec. Strange enough, once I'm out of the bottleneck systems I haven't really had any problems staying alive. Not sure if I'm just getting lucky so far, or following basic rabbit rules is super effective.
What is this fair that you speak of?

You're unlikely to come across someone actually flying that fit solo, it's very specialised and extremely fragile because the fit sacrifices any semblance of tank in order to be able to lock that fast.

Rabbit rules are extremely effective.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Loutro Fift
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#26 - 2015-08-15 03:47:25 UTC
Quote:


Rabbit rules are extremely effective.



Translation please?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2015-08-15 03:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Loutro Fift wrote:
Quote:


Rabbit rules are extremely effective.



Translation please?
Scout ahead, run like hell or hide at the first sign of a threat.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#28 - 2015-08-15 14:49:45 UTC
Low sec around Arnon is particularly dangerous as there are a lot of pirates ready to pounce on the new players than venture into low sec while running the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc.

As I learned in my first month. I unknowingly accepted a mission from an agent that went into low sec (yes, I overlooked the warning in big red letters in the mission description). When I tried to make the jump to my mission destination system I got the hard warning asking me if I was sure. Adrenaline pumping I decided to go for it in my arty Thrasher. Surprisingly no one was waiting on the other side and I ran my mission. Woo Hoo - I made it.

The loot was incredible, so I decided to push my luck and go back for the rest of the loot after dropping off my first load in Arnon. I was happily salvaging away when warning lights and sounds went off. I panicked and had no idea where the villian was as I frantically tried to initiate warp. He popped me, and then my pod was gone just as I thought it had entered warp. Of course, I hadn't changed my medical clone so I ended up about 20 jumps away.

I cheerfully convo'd my opponent and he admitted that I was a bit 'squishy'. Which made me laugh since I had done absolutely nothing to fight back.

I didn't go back to low until I had learned about d-scan and cloaking.

tl;dr: You have a great attitude -- keep it up.



Cyber SGB
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-08-15 15:42:50 UTC
It is good that you took this step into Low Sec, Best Sec. The best thing to do in the game is to have fun.

I say, do not go back to High Sec. You will learn about Low Sec by living in Low Sec. Do some reading on creating insta-undocks, insta-docks, safe spots, and gate tacticals.

I guarantee you will come to love Low Sec so much you will never go anywhere else again. :D

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Loutro Fift
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#30 - 2015-08-15 17:25:20 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Low sec around Arnon is particularly dangerous as there are a lot of pirates ready to pounce on the new players than venture into low sec while running the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc.

As I learned in my first month. I unknowingly accepted a mission from an agent that went into low sec (yes, I overlooked the warning in big red letters in the mission description). When I tried to make the jump to my mission destination system I got the hard warning asking me if I was sure. Adrenaline pumping I decided to go for it in my arty Thrasher. Surprisingly no one was waiting on the other side and I ran my mission. Woo Hoo - I made it.

The loot was incredible, so I decided to push my luck and go back for the rest of the loot after dropping off my first load in Arnon. I was happily salvaging away when warning lights and sounds went off. I panicked and had no idea where the villian was as I frantically tried to initiate warp. He popped me, and then my pod was gone just as I thought it had entered warp. Of course, I hadn't changed my medical clone so I ended up about 20 jumps away.

I cheerfully convo'd my opponent and he admitted that I was a bit 'squishy'. Which made me laugh since I had done absolutely nothing to fight back.

I didn't go back to low until I had learned about d-scan and cloaking.

tl;dr: You have a great attitude -- keep it up.






Thanks. Can't learn unless you try.
MTB Fritz Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-09-14 15:13:51 UTC
What I learned from low-sec mining different to your list

- even tho Hobgoblins dont cut it anymore and your venture is for mining not tanking MOVEMENT is life....if you orbit your chosen asteroid or even the rat at 500 meters you ll evade a lot of shots while having the range to continue to "slurp" ore.
Salvos Rhoska
#32 - 2015-09-14 17:34:25 UTC
Much good advise here.

Mine is:
-"G" is the hotkey to recall drones to their hold.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-09-17 10:25:49 UTC
Here's another crucial tip that no one seems to have mentioned:

Have local chat as a separate window to all your other chat channels, and leave it open AT ALL TIMES. Local chat is an invaluable intel tool to see who's in the system with you, who's just come in (Ctrl+A the player list, new people entering will show up as unhighlighted) etc.

Some other tips:
D-scan, d-scan, d-scan...

Mine in a site or a mission (can't be d-scanned)

If you see probes on d-scan, run

If you see anyone in local, run

If you see anyone on d-scan, run

D-scan, d-scan, d-scan...

Probably loads more but yeah, those will do for now I think.
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#34 - 2015-09-17 12:10:35 UTC
Tanuki Two wrote:
As a fairly new player to n lowsec myself, I'm also curious how a ship can be lo ked and shot so quickly. I've head people reference e 'insta-lock' ships, but not how it's done.


There are quite a few set-ups that can lock *very* quickly, and through using remote sensor boosters it is indeed possible to achieve an "insta-lock" with certain setups/hulls (there is a player of my acquaintance who does his with a Griffin boosting a Thrasher, he is very adept at killing even travel-fit interceptors on nullsec gates in my neighbourhood).

Don't be afraid to ditch the drones and bug out when an obvious hostile enters local. You can replace the drones easily :-)

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-09-18 04:44:28 UTC
If your going to live in lowsec google the following:

- insta undock bookmarks
- insta dock bookmarks
- safe spot bookmarks
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-09-18 08:15:50 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
If you see probes on d-scan, run


i love this, i usually just abandon probes in busy systems Cool

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-09-18 08:19:55 UTC
lollerwaffle wrote:
Here's another crucial tip that no one seems to have mentioned:

Have local chat as a separate window to all your other chat channels, and leave it open AT ALL TIMES. Local chat is an invaluable intel tool to see who's in the system with you, who's just come in (Ctrl+A the player list, new people entering will show up as unhighlighted) etc.

Some other tips:
D-scan, d-scan, d-scan...

Mine in a site or a mission (can't be d-scanned)

If you see probes on d-scan, run

If you see anyone in local, run

If you see anyone on d-scan, run

D-scan, d-scan, d-scan...

Probably loads more but yeah, those will do for now I think.


this is maybe a bit excessive, use the dscan distance to monitor how close something gets to you before deciding to run, if probes appear on scan then you should probably get out but if a ship appears then just see if he gets any closer before running, align out as soon as someone comes in local as he may just be passing through.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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