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Please Sign - Petition Thread For Reduced RL PLEX Cost

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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#1 - 2015-09-16 22:25:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron
Dear CCP,

I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance.

The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game.

Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter.

Yours Faithfully,

N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive.

Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-09-16 22:39:41 UTC
So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#3 - 2015-09-16 22:42:14 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good.


Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Vollhov
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2015-09-16 22:43:18 UTC
Remove plex with the game? Twisted

End of Time. I'm not fanatic, I'm just a servant by Her Majesty the Empress Jamyl Sarum I. It's time to leave this world to me. YC111 to YC117.12.10 20:00
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
#5 - 2015-09-16 22:45:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Luckytania
My preference would be for the per PLEX price to be double the real money cost of a one month subscription.


-- edit --

So, just to be explicit, this post is an "anti-signature" on the topic.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2015-09-16 22:50:44 UTC
Lowering the price of PLEX will either be the best thing that has happened to the game...or the worst.

Only one way to find out.

Mr Epeen Cool
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#7 - 2015-09-16 22:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Aaron wrote:
Lots of people are leaving and (Webvan edit: "because they") are finding it difficult to play the game because of ("due to") limited time and RL finance("s").

Source?

btw your sentence structure is just horrid, almost nonsensical. Very poor use of "and" after my underline. I ftfy and along with the rest too. We still need a source though, regarding the underlined part of your sentence, anyway. And Edit: before it's said, that's not an 'English is my second language' type of error regarding that "and", but even mathematically in error.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-09-16 22:57:00 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good.


Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here.


So you want this thread to be an echo chamber wherein only those who agree with you will have their posts visible and all those who voice otherwise will be reported by you to have their posts deleted?

You should try Reddit then because there is a built-in feature for that.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Loki Yamaguchi
Level 42 Industries
#9 - 2015-09-16 22:59:37 UTC
My guess is that RL PLEX prices should counter ingame(IG) prices with a fixed minimum. ie as the price UG rises as it is now, the RL price falls and encourages more people to buy PLEX with $¥€. As the IG price falls due to the oversupply of PLEX then the RL price rises again.

Getting the balance right is key but as long it was done openly then tweaks would not be an issue as long as the multipliers were nudged in small increments.

Just like all EVE commodities, prices rise and fall...RL PLEX should follow that truism too...


SHORT ANSWER: No to a fixed price drop
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2015-09-16 23:10:32 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Dear CCP,

I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers.
Why would they?

Also, nah. Not signed.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-09-16 23:10:58 UTC
In before the lock

Another plex is too high thread

So your saying that despite the team of economist that ccp has telling them to stay out the way they should ignore them and change plex prices to suit your needs?

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#12 - 2015-09-16 23:37:11 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
In before the lock

Another plex is too high thread

So your saying that despite the team of economist that ccp has telling them to stay out the way they should ignore them and change plex prices to suit your needs?



The team of economists should be sacked imo. A more socialist attitude needs to be applied. What are we saying here? **** the poor people?

Yes, PLEX prices should be changed to suit my needs. My need is for Eve to remain online for a very long time. If the PLEX customer base vanishes then a few thousand people will leave.


Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Raiz Nhell
PeregrineXII
#13 - 2015-09-16 23:40:09 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good.


Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here.



Report this one to...

Your idea is bad, PLEX cost what they cost;
In game, set by a market of players for isk;
Out of game, set by CCP for RL cash`.

No amount of signatures will change that.

Also threatening reports and deletions for those that disagree with you is pretty disgraceful.

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2015-09-16 23:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Aaron,

If the problem is that people can't afford the price of PLEX and you want CCP to reduce the PLEX price to be closer to monthly subscription price why not just suggest players subscribe instead of use PLEX?

Any account paid for with real money is cheaper if subscribed. PLEX is a luxury for dual training, etc. if paid for with cash.

If its finances that are a problem, then I can understand why. It makes no sense to use PLEX paid for with cash, to keep an account active. People should subscribe and they'll instantly have the lower price you are petitioning for.
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#15 - 2015-09-16 23:46:40 UTC
Raiz Nhell wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good.


Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here.



Report this one to...

Your idea is bad, PLEX cost what they cost;
In game, set by a market of players for isk;
Out of game, set by CCP for RL cash`.

No amount of signatures will change that.

Also threatening reports and deletions for those that disagree with you is pretty disgraceful.



I can afford my sub. If **** poor people is the attitude of the likes of you and CCP then kiss good bye to more customers/players, this is the facts.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#16 - 2015-09-16 23:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Aaron wrote:
A more socialist attitude needs to be applied.

Yes, PLEX prices should be changed to suit my needs.


Entitlement. Socialist attitude only works until it runs out of everyone else's money.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-09-16 23:52:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
The argument of a weak mind. If we disagree you must be racist/bigit/against poor people. Hmm I am classified as poor by the government. I seem to be able to manage my money well enough to pay all my cost of living and extras like Internet and Eve.

And your argument doesn't hold water.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Loki Yamaguchi
Level 42 Industries
#18 - 2015-09-16 23:54:54 UTC
Aaron wrote:
I can afford my sub. If **** poor people is the attitude of the likes of you and CCP then kiss good bye to more customers/players, this is the facts.


If poor people's ability to play EVE is determined by a $1-2 price change then their financial position is such that they shouldn't be playing EVE in the first place...

Webvan's "entitlement" comment is bang-on...
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#19 - 2015-09-17 00:01:30 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Dear CCP,

I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance.

The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game.

Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter.

Yours Faithfully,

N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive.

Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open.



Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter.

IBTL

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-09-17 00:04:09 UTC
I just read the part where you wanted to keep the post clear of trolling and I laugh because this is GD and trolling Is what we do

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
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