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ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#1 - 2015-09-15 17:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ImYourMom
Its clear that many people dont have time to spend hours either roaming, waiting fleets etc, and have wanted no cried out for the ability for instant action, when all they may have is 30mins or an hour to play.

What about creating some kind of battle arena for players to go to, now i know it needs more thought especially where people will just gank others, just like the test server!

Perhaps make it concord moderated, with only people accepting combat through the option of duelling. I am not sure how you would do this with fleets, and im sorry I dont and havent thought out the solution for that. I am just thinking about the concept and hoping people wlll add to thread to post how this could be possible.

Perhaps people could win prizes etc to make it more interesting.


just wanted to UPDATE something

These arenas are different areas of space, like entering a wormhole or something. Its not arenas thats in current space. CCP would have to create the arena for people to go into. Did my post confuse people? If you think I meant still arena play in current systems, absolutely not. You would like jump through some womholes that lead to PVP Arenas.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#2 - 2015-09-15 17:25:26 UTC
Absolutely. Let's rename a few ships while we're at it


Manticore to Rogue

Guardian to Priest

Golem to Warrior

Curse to Necromancer

Falcon to Wizard
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-09-15 17:26:27 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
Its clear that many people dont have time to spend hours either roaming, waiting fleets etc, and have wanted no cried out for the ability for instant action, when all they may have is 30mins or an hour to play.

What about creating some kind of battle arena for players to go to, now i know it needs more thought especially where people will just gank others, just like the test server!

Perhaps make it concord moderated, with only people accepting combat through the option of duelling. I am not sure how you would do this with fleets, and im sorry I dont and havent thought out the solution for that. I am just thinking about the concept and hoping people wlll add to thread to post how this could be possible.

Perhaps people could win prizes etc to make it more interesting.


Go anywhere where lots of people travel and take it upon yourself to never blueball anyone no matter their comp/number and you will ahve much less trouble getting into fights. You might lose more often but PEW will be happening for sure.
mr roadkill
Silent but Violent
#4 - 2015-09-15 17:27:21 UTC
Just go to Jita and challenge someone to a dual.
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#5 - 2015-09-15 17:28:30 UTC
mr roadkill wrote:
Just go to Jita and challenge someone to a dual.


Its not quite the same is it, because people dont participate in the same way. This is for people that actually want to
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#6 - 2015-09-15 17:29:35 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
ImYourMom wrote:
Its clear that many people dont have time to spend hours either roaming, waiting fleets etc, and have wanted no cried out for the ability for instant action, when all they may have is 30mins or an hour to play.

What about creating some kind of battle arena for players to go to, now i know it needs more thought especially where people will just gank others, just like the test server!

Perhaps make it concord moderated, with only people accepting combat through the option of duelling. I am not sure how you would do this with fleets, and im sorry I dont and havent thought out the solution for that. I am just thinking about the concept and hoping people wlll add to thread to post how this could be possible.

Perhaps people could win prizes etc to make it more interesting.


Go anywhere where lots of people travel and take it upon yourself to never blueball anyone no matter their comp/number and you will ahve much less trouble getting into fights. You might lose more often but PEW will be happening for sure.



Thats fine but again this is about roaming about finding fights etc etc, plus what if i just want to have a 1v1? or a 2v2 or something?
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-09-15 17:31:11 UTC
EVE online is a sandbox universe, making things like this goes against the general idea of that.
The current system works better, in which if you want riskfree pvp, you go to lowsec, wh or null. Even though hisec isn't that safe itself.

So that is a no from me.
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-09-15 17:39:47 UTC
Alliance tournament is basically this idea but for the super rich ....

This idea is the same exact idea but it's for casuals so will get a lot of hate
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-09-15 17:47:05 UTC
People don't want somewhere they can PVP, they want somewhere they can PVP where they think the odds will always be in there favor.

A big no from me still.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Persephone IX
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-09-15 17:50:54 UTC
As previously stated, there is the duel mechanic, + go to FW space warp to a beacon == insta pvp, you can even get 1v1 some times.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#11 - 2015-09-15 17:59:45 UTC
Or, you can go to the forums and arrange 1v1 duels with folks in C&P. Check out the History of Thunderdome link in my sig.

-1, tools already exist.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2015-09-15 18:33:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Amber Starview wrote:
Alliance tournament is basically this idea but for the super rich ....

This idea is the same exact idea but it's for casuals so will get a lot of hate

You get the harsh criticism because you suggest something that does not fit into EVE. If you had suggested, for instance, a player organization thing where people can casually slaughter themselves whenever they please, you'd get a lot less heat. On the other hand, there already are things like this with, you guessed it, RVB. Or you could take on the challenge yourself to set up a tournament, a thunderdome as hinted by Bronson, get people to guarantee safety, security and integrity of the arena, promote it, get people hyped for it and actually want to participate as combatants and security forces and actually create something that is a worthy EVE accomplishment. What you, however, suggested is a game mechanic taking away all the fun stuff from you.

If people do not have time to look for fights, they should join RVB. No need to search around, all combat is happening in 2 constellations.

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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#13 - 2015-09-15 18:38:32 UTC
Undock. You are now in the world's biggest pvp arena.

Dotlan is your best friend when looking for regions to roam.

There is also nothing preventing you from organizing a league and setting up shop somewhere, but the players should build and maintain such a thing, rather than sheer mechanics.

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-09-15 19:37:44 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Or, you can go to the forums and arrange 1v1 duels with folks in C&P. Check out the History of Thunderdome link in my sig.

-1, tools already exist.

And all this without horrifically breaking the sandbox \o/

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Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#15 - 2015-09-15 20:29:55 UTC
OP your request already exists. It is called the test server.

(though for some reason, I still sometimes see people playing risk averse on the test server... ganging up in fleets, creating unfair fights... on the test server... it's really a psychologist's dream)

The UI update we deserve
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-09-15 20:42:20 UTC
Wow needs new players I hear

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Dror
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-09-16 00:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Dror
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Go anywhere where lots of people travel and take it upon yourself to never blueball anyone no matter their comp/number and you will ahve much less trouble getting into fights. You might lose more often but PEW will be happening for sure.

Min-maxing is pretty central with the game. In fact, if the problem is just trying to find something without blobbing, why suggest "just taking more fights"? That's, overall, less interesting play because of re-fitting.

Celthric Kanerian wrote:
EVE online is a sandbox universe, making things like this goes against the general idea of that.

Real life -- the ultimate sandbox -- has arena style play. The main criticism of roam play is N+1, including boosts. Feel free to offer other examples of fixing N+1? Else, arenas are an interesting idea for gamemodes that are non-feasible with ordinary gameplay.

Quote:
Duels

Links. Also, no fleet mechanic.

Bronson Hughes wrote:
Tools already exist

No gamemode mechanics.

Quote:
RVB

Some characters are already in corps.

That pretty much sums up the criticisms on arena gameplay.

"SP is helpful for the game?" Here's all of the research on motivation -- it says the opposite! What purpose does it serve, then? Starter corps are non-competitive. Sov is unchallenged. "Fix sov!" you say? Remove SP.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-09-16 01:24:05 UTC
Dror wrote:

Min-maxing is pretty central with the game. In fact, if the problem is just trying to find something without blobbing, why suggest "just taking more fights"? That's, overall, less interesting play because of re-fitting.


If you're only playing for 30 minutes or so, you don't really have time to lose too many ships anyway. When you have time to play, just buy en mass and right click 'fit' from saved fittings. The response of just take more fights was in response to finding a quick fight, not quantifying it any further. If you want it done further, then arrange it. Set up tournaments, scout out areas, challenge people to duels, or declare wars. Fighting and losing seems more interesting to me from a 'I can't Eve so need CCP t Eve for me' perspective than sitting in station and seeing how high you can get your spin counter.



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Real life -- the ultimate sandbox -- has arena style play. The main criticism of roam play is N+1, including boosts. Feel free to offer other examples of fixing N+1? Else, arenas are an interesting idea for gamemodes that are non-feasible with ordinary gameplay.


Then invite your duel targets to fleet. Even in the 'Scary Low sec' you can find people who will honor 1v1's. They are becoming more scarce, but they are out there. Fly around and ask. Or again, organize it. Or get on the Test server and lose ships to your hearts content.


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Links. Also, no fleet mechanic.


Because you can't invite a bro who wants a 1v1 to a fleet so you can have honorable space combat.....


Quote:
No gamemode mechanics.


Eve is the game mode mechanic. Go make your sand castle. The SCL is/was player ran. What's stopping you from organizing your own?

Quote:
Some characters are already in corps.

That pretty much sums up the criticisms on arena gameplay.




Again.... go find someone to 1v1 with all the tools you already have.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Jacek Cygan
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-09-16 01:35:29 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
EVE online is a sandbox universe, making things like this goes against the general idea of that.
The current system works better, in which if you want riskfree pvp, you go to lowsec, wh or null. Even though hisec isn't that safe itself.

So that is a no from me.


i think you dont get what sandbox means,
and hes just asking for borders for him to play, every sandbox needs those otherwise sand will be blown away

i think its better to improve FW a bit, for example by adding announcements in with systems capture is going on, and slighty delay warping off in plexes (dem farmers)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#20 - 2015-09-16 01:39:10 UTC
Jacek Cygan wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
EVE online is a sandbox universe, making things like this goes against the general idea of that.
The current system works better, in which if you want riskfree pvp, you go to lowsec, wh or null. Even though hisec isn't that safe itself.

So that is a no from me.


i think you dont get what sandbox means,
and hes just asking for borders for him to play, every sandbox needs those otherwise sand will be blown away

i think its better to improve FW a bit, for example by adding announcements in with systems capture is going on, and slighty delay warping off in plexes (dem farmers)

and we have borders,the op just cant have his own little private one with special circumstances because that would be taking sand away from the rest of us.

he is free to go find a quiet corner to play in though.

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