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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#41 - 2015-09-15 08:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Amber Patoria wrote:
I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess.

Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest.

And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. Big smile

4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. Pirate

From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually.



The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately.

I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-09-15 08:10:27 UTC
Just pay your sub with RL money, play the game when you want to and don't worry about plex prices. Problem solved.


Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
#43 - 2015-09-15 08:11:29 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
I am a great station trader
No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex.

Val'Dore wrote:
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.
Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#44 - 2015-09-15 08:13:51 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
I am a great station trader
No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex.

Val'Dore wrote:
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.
Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price.


But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day.
Rek Seven
The Persuaders
#45 - 2015-09-15 08:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
I don't know... I kind of like EVE being pay to win now.

I used to do PVE to earn isk for PVP ships but now i can just spend a measly £9 and buy myself a new faction battleship to own all the peasants with.
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2015-09-15 08:18:13 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
I am a great station trader
No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex.

Val'Dore wrote:
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.
Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price.


But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day.


So you complain that you cant pay 1-5 accounts with PLEX when you dont even play that mutch ? Are you even listening to yourself ?


Amber Patoria
Division 13
#47 - 2015-09-15 08:18:59 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Amber Patoria wrote:
I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess.

Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest.

And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. Big smile

4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. Pirate

From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually.



The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately.

I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up.

I'd read the thread but admit I'd not investigated the link to your work until just now...

Station/Citadel interiors? Smile

Amateur grade it may be, but +1 for the attempts you're making and it's inspiration value alone.

You'll find your wallet flashing ingame with a lil token of appreciation courtesy Dusette Squad™.

Nice work, keep it up!

Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is.

Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor?

loĸι

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#48 - 2015-09-15 08:34:55 UTC
Thank you very much. I have never had a donation before. You saved me a night of grinding production and the market.

Good night to everyone. You kept me up all night and I had a good night.

Winthorp
#49 - 2015-09-15 09:03:26 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:

Good night to everyone. You kept me up all night and I had a good night.



The Dusettes keep a lot of us up at night. Twisted
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
#50 - 2015-09-15 09:06:33 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
I am a great station trader
No you're not. If you were, then getting a plex would be nothing. Hell, you could get a plex just by trading plex.

Val'Dore wrote:
CCP would incur so much wrath if they interfered in PLEX prices again.
Undoubtedly they have and still do interfere. They keep the prices from destabilising. What they don't do is cap the price.
But like I said, I'm just not playing that much. I can not stay in top positions when I only log in once a day.
A "great station trader" can log in once a day and easily make enough to plex multiple accounts. Consider that if plex were 1.5b, you need to make 50m per day per account you wish to plex. Not exactly difficult.

Like a lot of the others have hinted at, it sounds to me like you barely play the game and yet expect to be able to plex your account. Consider this, you are competing with all others plexing their accounts. If noone could afford it, plex prices would drop due to lack of use. That they keep going up and you can no longer afford them is simply a sign that there are many many people above you who can. Hell, I plex 16 accounts a month logging on for maybe a couple of hours most days with every other weekend having a decent play session of 8-10 hours, and I'm not worried about plex prices being too high. You should be able to manage 1.

If you don't have time to play and get plex, but still want to then just cough up the cash. it works out to be at most 33 pence (or 50 cents) a day. If that's too much and you'd rather throw around threats of sub cancellations if CCP don't "fix" the game in your favour, then you will not be missed.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Hemmo Paskiainen
#51 - 2015-09-15 09:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Daniela Doran wrote:
Don't know if CCP has any control over plex prices. Player base has dropped and people aren't buying plexes like they use to. At the same time, loot value has also dropped in isk value so what eve is experiencing is Inflation.

What exactly do you want CCP to do about this problem? Offer deadspace mods or geckos as a gift bonus per plex purchase?


They are "stepping in from time to time", thats a dev quote about the plex market. They are controlling it. The "fully player driven economy" is just a hoax.

People shoul be more concerned about why people do not prefer to inject irl cash, why is that?

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?

Omar Alharazaad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-09-15 09:17:53 UTC
Hm. Sounds like I ought to cash in some of that overtime pay.
If the price of a pack of smokes and a six pack of beer is going to net me enough ISK to be able to buy some shinies it might be worth it.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#53 - 2015-09-15 09:29:02 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil.

I'd ask "can I haz your stuff" but I'm guessing you're living out of a shopping cart at this point Straight




I do not play video games. The fact I play this game says it is the best game ever.

I have a life, I have a job, and I will be damned if I play games all day.



You have 2 jobs. One of them is earning you 50c an hour.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#54 - 2015-09-15 09:35:50 UTC
That's Awesome. I guess CCP will read this, since a 3 page forum post appeared over night.

OK, I'm going to sleep now.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#55 - 2015-09-15 09:53:48 UTC
Amber Patoria wrote:
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
Amber Patoria wrote:
I do feel for your position. I hope prices never become so extreme that we start to lose droves of players who grind for their sub, losing players enmasse is always bad no matter the reason, I guess.

Though in saying that I personally haven't seen that much rage about the prices, to be honest.

And as someone who funds their EVE from selling plex I have to say these prices are amazing. Big smile

4 plex and I got a new Moros the other day, fitted and delivered, with spending money left over. Pirate

From what I read in this thread I doubt your sub is in any danger at all. The prices will drop again, eventually.



The prices are high mainly to doing a lot of modeling for fun which I post in the forums and my website work. I am not in Eve as much lately.

I would rather learn animation and give us some Eve content, rather than running multiple characters, just do not want to lose my main as well, if the prices just keep going up.

I'd read the thread but admit I'd not investigated the link to your work until just now...

Station/Citadel interiors? Smile

Amateur grade it may be, but +1 for the attempts you're making and it's inspiration value alone.

You'll find your wallet flashing ingame with a lil token of appreciation courtesy Dusette Squad™.

Nice work, keep it up!




That's pretty cool. Always good to see people with class playing eve.
Outlawd
Asset Seizure and Reclaimation
#56 - 2015-09-15 09:54:50 UTC
PLEX being a high price is great for CCP. It means scrubs like me can't afford to buy one on the market and have to pay $$ to play.

I'm bad. Sad


In conclusion: CCP won't do anything. Quit whining.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#57 - 2015-09-15 10:03:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Hm. Sounds like I ought to cash in some of that overtime pay.
If the price of a pack of smokes and a six pack of beer is going to net me enough ISK to be able to buy some shinies it might be worth it.


You have a point, a real good one. I turned down overtime last week to play eve. That overtime would've paid me an additional $182 dollas. That day I made around 700-800 mill isk grinding missions. Plex cost $20, means I could've bought 8 plex if I'd choose to worked that OT. 8 x 1.2 bill = 9.6 bill isk. If these prices continues, then I may retire from grinding and start putting in some OT, like seriously.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2015-09-15 10:43:58 UTC
Destiny Dain2 wrote:
The cost of PLEX is getting a bit out of control.

There is hardly any sell orders in Amarr and plenty of buy orders, because nobody what's to pay 1.4 Bil. isk for a PLEX, but have no choice but to but a buy order at 1.2 Bil.

I had 5 characters and now I'm down to one, and willing to drop the last until the Citadel comes out.

I only complain because I am doing the My Eve forum post called "The Citadel Project" and I do not have the time to make 1.2 Bil. for one character, when I could get 2 PLEX's a few months ago for that price. (BTW: I never paid for the game ever.)

I have one day to make 200 Mil and I am about to do another post on the forum and it's not that much today since I had to play Eve this weekend to make isk for a PLEX.

Check me out at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=425371&find=unread.

By next summer I should be doing some cool videos, I hope. Just building my models, before I can.


Yah but its the same like cars alcohol drugs and many more things in real life. Thats means get a new job or do better at your job. There is nothing wrong that 1.2b per plex. Its economy. Deal with it. CCP dont interfere with or economy.

Sign, all players. Do not come with a lame excuse thats "blahblah" its not. You want to price reduce stop buying plex. Then it will drop. Its that easy. And if you need plex to order to play then get a better job outside of eve. If you can not pay 15 bucks a month well spend the last money in eve any way is stupid in real life. There is no argue about that one.
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#59 - 2015-09-15 10:55:22 UTC
why should ccp intervene with a player run market? are you special or something? working as intended.

clearly the price is rising because isk i too easy to make in this game so if you want the free game work for it or pay a sub

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2015-09-15 11:08:02 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
He still supports the game. It's a fallacy that he never paid for the game, he just paid in time and effort rather than cash.

Someone else paid in cash to save themselves time and effort.

Either way, CCP receives income for the characters that this guy had active.

This is something people often forget and I agree that it's worth saying, but right now I don't think that PLEX market is bottlenecked in consumption department.