Missions & Complexes

I think some people are just using AF blobs to take out burners, especially in space where flying a 100m frig solo doesn't make sense. I imagine a remote rep ishkur blob would deal with pretty much any burner very quickly. A worm blob might be even better, especially with the improved drone HP.

feel free to test it.

My average number of jumps for a burner has been 6.5

I don't accept low-sec burners, and I don't count them. If I did I bet I would be closer to 9 average jumps.

Some agents LOVE to send you across the region.

If running in Osmon (don't run in osmon), the agent will try and send you to the constellation to the south, which is 15 jumps around the Poinen curve or through the low-sec systems.

Apanake is a little better I guess, but still, tons of low-sec sends.

Lang, well its probably best, but then you are living out in Minmatar space and you need to be recent on your tetanus shots.

if you just keep a jump clone out there it probably isn't too bad. Just destroy it before it has a chance to get back to civilized space. Probably don't even need ascendancy implants, as that constellation is so small

I've seen this fit for a Daredevil

[Daredevil, Burner serpentis]

Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
[Empty High slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

Does it still work ?

I think the posts linked in the OP are still mostly adequate. Overall I think the daredevil is the most unified of all the ships. 90% web and blaster dps are just strong.

I'll just run through my ships
serpentis burner - Enyo (I never noticed the change, but I have max skills and gunnery implants, looks like the hawk might be better, I need to try it still)
blood raider burner - wolf I'm not sure there is really a work around on this one.
Angels burner - Daredevil
Sansha burner - daredevil
gurista burner - speed fit daredevil, although I think a unified daredevil could work. one heated mwd cycle and I'm in scram range.

team burners yea the old garmur pretty much works for all of them, especially a shiny one. although the last few pages have an interesting idea with polarized rocket launchers
gallente team- garmur
caldari - Retribution (mostly because it is a cheap version, and does more dps with beams than the garmur with light missiles)
amarr - daredevil
minmatar - harpy (again cheap version, does more dps than cheap garmur, similar to pimp garmur but without damage type selection, and worse heat)

burner bases, the rng seems a bit crazy on these, some days I won't get one, others I'll get them back to back. although they are very much in game (unless they got removed sometime in the last few days)
serpentis - deimos, thing has great resists for it, and can burn out to them in not too long, Looks like the vagabond is now the recommended fit, I'll probably try it out soon.
angels - vigilant, double web + painter = good hits with heavy neutron blasters and void
blood - gila, tbh this one is getting boring, and the payout is the lowest, I'm tempted to start declining it. The drone aggro is bleh.


for general missions I use a mach for everything. I'm lazy and they are cheap so I have 2 one ac one arty fit. Both have warp speed rigs. Also since I have high faction standings I can decline almost every mission, that isn't a burner.

too many calibration points.

in general burner npcs have a very small sig radius although looking at chruker, maybe they aren't needed? not sure if their speed is high enough to reduce damage. I feel like I should actually know the missile damage formula, but my main understanding is that almost all the time reducing sig radius is better than improving explosion velocity. although they stack now so maybe 1x rigor 1x flare would be better?

burner stats: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php?supergroup=25&return_to=

Yeah my bad.

The idea was get extra range from a signal amplifier rather than ionic rig and pick up better locking. I suppose I could go with a Rigor I / Flare I / OCU I if I wanted to avoid a co-processor and make room for a siganl amplifier. Not sure if the minimally better lock of the F-90 over an ionic rig would help much anyway.



I just copied and pasted those from the recommended earlier fits. i have not done the maths on how much advantage they will be.