EVE General Discussion

You realise that this is the basis for PVP right? You aim for the stars, falter and then try again. Not necessarily because you want some sort of prize at the end of the struggle, but because you realise & accept that the struggle and competition itself is the is reward. PVP for the sake of PVPing.

Anything else is just carebearing, which is why we have these massive coalitions: people who really just want to grind in peace and thus create massive and boring stalemates and THEN start whining about how boring it is. Who knew.

Mhm...


Wait, that was internet sarcasm, right?

<3 Fozzie

The same things keep happening over and over again... thats the whole point of all the downed negativity associated by players with EVE.

It is like watching an infant child learning how to ride a bike without sidewheels. After a while you just get this deep sad agrovated feelling after the child 10th fall. A mixture between rejection, laughed out and unaccomplishment. I guess the causes for this could ly in the make up of the niche playerbase, iterations and image. But it is likely a mixture off all togheter.

By just waving that particulary example away, ccp showed they hadn't got a clue what the concequences were going to be. The resons behind it, is to be speculated, but in the eyes of the customers..... without proper clarification..... it can only be taken as negative.

Add some cookies and a few more.... and you have got the reson why most vet's are bitter. They wern't born bitter: they have become that way.

A possible solution could be a mind map of player perception for certain timeframes and iterate the future communication on that.

Fozziesov is really a great solution. Too bad it came 4 years too late. Momentum has been lost for quit a while now, and it is too be seen if Eve can take this expected but unterestimated dip. It is going to be hard when peer-2-peer is your best selling methode.

Having been on the frontlines of the Fozziesov discussion im curious about all these bittervet references you mentioned, because i didnt see one.

You know what annoys me, broad sweeping generalisations you make up.

EvE is EvE. It changes. Sometime for the better, sometimes for the worse.

It is what it is. Accept. Or don't.

No one cares.

FozzieSov has issues, most notably that it dissuades entites fielding expensive assets in combat.

For all the problems with Dominion sov, entities were bringing a trillion ISK in assets to fights they cared about, and sometimes that led to hugescale destruction - 12T in B-R, 3T in Asakai, and one fight over a half trillion most months.

I'm optimistic FozzieSov will be improved in the short term, but I'm still concerned the improvements may come too late. Already my trading patterns have shifted toward relating to EVE's present decline.

I'm mad because the ship class that I fly the most was relegated to near uselessness, and months later CCP hasn't said a thing about how they plan to address this other than that they will eventually. Which we've heard before.

Interceptors a problem, it depends where you are, Pure Blind yes, regions near to high sec and low sec yes, but go deeper in and you start noticing that the initial wave of reinforcing for lol's has already petered out, look at Estoria no systems reinforced even those with low ADM. CCP needed to wait this issue out and I thought that the roll back of cycles was all that was needed.

I happen to think that Fozzie has jumped the gun in removing this capability from Interceptors, we need the game to be be deeper than people just looking for good fights and arranging arena type fights at the FC level is just not what this game deserves, we need localised conflict, this is why many of us are waiting to see how things pan out before jumping in, we are also waiting to see the major players such as the Imperium and PL continue their decline.

The negative thing is that the Imperium may be able to run around Eve like they did before. In the worst case scenario swatting who they want with no cares at all, and that is not good for Eve at all. It was the Goons and their allies that complained the most as they were having to look after their space and did not like that they had to do that, their right is to go and pee in someone elses cheerios with no repercussions and that is why they have whined so much.

I am rather disappointed, but I hope that CCP quickly sees that the removal of interceptors as a platform for the entosis link is an error.

PS So far I have not used an interceptor to RF a system.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/next-set-of-sov-and-capital-movement-iterations/

So, now that nobody can ***** and moan about trollceptors, now that passive regen alone will defeat most actual sov trolls, now that jump fatigue is being nerfed to a fairly sensible balanced point...

It looks like the direction is positive.

"Fozziesov" is still evolving and, by all indications, evolving in a positive direction. I for one am looking forward to these next iterations.