EVE General Discussion

Plexing my accounts isn't a concern since I use stock's dividends to buy subs for some months now.
And I don't think I'm alone in this case.

Btw many people in my country pay like $60/$80 / month for crappy basic cable TV or $120 for "complete" cable TV.

CAD$40 for 2 accounts in a game like this one is cheap beside it.

I never imply anything. I say what I mean, and mean what I say.

You seem to have had a knee-jerk reaction, and assumed I have said, by false implication, something I have not.
Therafter came the normal litany of what PLEX is, and which I am aware of, and does not need repeating.

My point, as was that of many other posters here, is that as PLEX prices rise, people will buy less of it with real money, because they only buy as much as their isk needs are. PLEX is inherently unequitable in terms of conversion to the other options it applies to, such as clothing, skins, subbing, or multitraining, which all are cheaper to buy directly with real money, even though some of them are also availbale ingame as sold by other players for isk.

If you can find clothing/skins/aurum tokens for cheaper than the PLEX/Aurum conversion cost of aquiring them , buy them, immediately.

The flaw in your approach, is not realizing that (rational) people buy PLEX for one reason, and one reason alone:
- to sell ingame for isk.

As to the complex cascade of PLEXs rising prices( and a rational decrease of introduced PLEXs into the system as a result) effect on isk value and commodities, that is very slow and creeping but carries a great deal of momentum, as PLEX constitutes a gold standard. That also results in increase of price of commodities, as other people fight to raise funds sufficient to buy PLEX against increasing demand vs reduced supply. Sure, some will sell cheaper to make it, but the market forces, as grounded in the PLEX gold standard, which is essential to their gameplay in a way no other commodity is, drives prices upwards nonetheless.

PLEX is necessary for their existance, as oxygen is for ours IRL. If there is less oxygen around, and its price increases, people will invariably in aggregate raise their commodities prices to try and earn enough with commensurate efforts to attain that, against those fewer who choose to sell cheap (but then have to grind harder to make up the deficit).

That is what I meant, in that though PLEX is an ingenious system in many ways, it reciprocally also carries the elements of its own systemic downfall.

TLDR: PLEX price changes directly correlate (including all elements for and against, and through various considered means) to the health of the player population.
A rise in prices is bad, a decrease is good.
Economically, since PLEX is sourced only from outside the game, it carries elements similar to currency exchange markets, in the sense that only people with confidence in the game (or national economy in analog), purchase its currency and invest in it. When they dont, it causes systemic devaluation of the internal currency of that economy, meaning commodities there cost more nominally, but not in intrinsic value. Interestingly, by example, if we could trade with the Chinese server, players could mitigate this. But we cant. Tranquility is only one universal server, one nation, competing virtually and internally against external fixed IRL PLEX purchase rates.

As magnificent as EVEs economy is, and as ingenious as the PLEX system is, and as resilient as both are put together, it has its Achilles Heel. Thats is when people no longer introduce PLEX into the system in sufficient amounts.

Wat.

I agree there is no "fixed" set of players who buy PLEX IRL.
Who they are is irrelevant. Only the aggregate of what comes onto the ingame market, matters.

If they hold onto the PLEX they bought IRL, that too is irrelevant, because it has no influence on the market.

10 players selling 1 PLEX (which is impossible, idiotic, and ridiculous to state, because only 1 player can sell a PLEX) is not equivalent to 1 player selling 10 PLEX.

The former results in 1 PLEX introduction, the latter in 10.

In what kind of ******** logic does 1 PLEX equal 10 PLEX?

Why am I even answering to this.

Do you even understand WHERE PLEX comes from?

10x1 = 10
1x10 = 10

Hope that helps.

Whilst not alone you are probably unusual.

People are generally after ISK for a specific purpose and will cash in just enough ISK to fill that purpose. If your fleet needs to replace a Rorqual you cash in enough PLEX to get the 2 BILL ISK for a Rorqual. You do not suddenly buy 4 of the things or randomly pick up some POS parts just in case.

Someone considering a future purchase (like for example a ratting carrier) may be prompted to act earlier.

However very few people are going to randomly cash in PLEX and go shopping for billion ISK officer mods or some such just because they can get more ISK. I suspect the only people likely to do this are the occasional new player strapped for ISK wanting to try out shiney stuff.

Can you please explain what you mean by this?

so many ppl still don't get it.
plex value is not increasing!
isk value is decreasing!

plex as tool for ppl with real money, to sell game time in the game market.

which ppl could have big problems?
ppl who do not pay real money, ppl who grind isk to play for free.
those ppl have to play more to play for free...
sounds fair for the ppl who really buy plex from ccp with real money.

oooh eve is dying cause less freeloaders.

because freeloaders create content and do not grind isk via mining or ratting, or other pve...
/sarcasm off

You are either being obtuse or are genuinely lacking in certain mental faculties. If you are being obtuse I suggest you knock it off as you are only giving the impression that you are in fact a little slow so anything else you say carries less weight. In the original post there was an implied '10 people buying 1 plex EACH'.

Now I understand if English perhaps isn't your first languages (It isn't mine) but continuing to play the 'that's not what you said' or 'your math doesn't make sense you are stuuuupid' cards only makes YOU look the fool and makes no one take you seriously. Grow up.

Guess we have to spell out unit of issue (each) to be sure there's no room for ambiguity.

Still not worried about losing people too cheap to pay $15 a month, much less a one time $15.