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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2081 - 2012-01-03 20:26:36 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:

There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.


But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins?

And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons.

Kuronaga wrote:

Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.


I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****.


So you act psychotic, and have also done your best to reflect that in your emo looking portrait.

In other words, you have no relevance whatsoever in any discussion. You are just looking for attention.

THIS^

Seriously...so damned fixated on one thing that you can't see the real issue...

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Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#2082 - 2012-01-03 20:27:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcathra
Alpheias wrote:

Oh, so there has to be some kind of incentive, like a huge reward so you want to take that risk? Go play a theme park MMO and you can get the social experience that you crave and at no risk, the rewards!

Of course. Why should I take a risk if there is no reward in doing so? Makes no sense. EVE is already about risk vs. reward at every corner. People are choosing constantly what risk they are willing to take for what reward.
Why should there be a great risk in socializing? Makes no sense. But great risk in smuggling contraband, that makes perfectly sense. It also makes sense to apply a similar template that is used in the core game (high-sec, low-sec, etc.) to WiS locations.
A theme park MMO doesn't offer me the risk, I just get instant rewards. That isn't what I am talking about and what I want, read my text again or should I draw you a picture?

It's really funny with you haters, even when trying to take your arguments into consideration and trying to create a compromise you won't even listen. But yea, there it is again... arguing on the internet... Roll


Alpheias wrote:
And so what if I am looking for new ways to grief players?

And so what if I am looking for new ways to socialize with players? Same stupid question. Why is your "griefing" more relevant than socializing? EVE needs both and there has to be some kind of balance. The problem is that the (allowed) griefing-gameplay contradicts with other playing styles that are as valid as griefing. There is always a lot of tension between those player groups. Sadly that is nothing we can really change in a sandbox enviroment. But I think the different security zones in EVE do a really good job to keep this tension as low as possible. Therefore it is a good idea to have some similar system in stations.

Alpheias wrote:
If you want to be safe from any kind of hostile actions by another player whilst logged in, you are simply playing the wrong game. The way I see it, podding you enough times and you won't undock and at that point, I just need to stay in the same system as you and you won't undock.

I think you have the wrong impression of me. Did I say that I want to be safe of any kind of hostile actions? Again, read what I'm writing. I said that a game like EVE needs some save spots. You can agree with that or not. There are some of those ingame and it is mostly working as intended (eg high-sec itself, not safe entirely, but enough for most players). Sounds you are also one of the "remove high-sec"-supporters, arn't you? Think this is the wrong thread to discuss such fundamental principles of the game.

Just let's assume I really wouldn't undock if you are in system. How is that bothering you? Am I denieing you some kind of "rightful" kill or what is exactly your problem with that?
With the famous Hulkageddon approaching, many miners will stop mining because their think the risk is to high. Most of them will just do something else they perceive as not as risky. After the event is over they will start to mine again and be happy about the high mineral prices. Do they also play the wrong game? Seems they get along fine with it... (okay, there are some raging morons who can't and in this case, I'm on your side).
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2083 - 2012-01-03 20:40:18 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:

There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.


But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins?

And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons.

Kuronaga wrote:

Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.


I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****.


Sad demented panda crying out "look at me"!

Good news is most of Eve knows how they want to play Eve and your opinion is not only the minority, but should Eve survive even more an outlier.

More time is spent in Eve in PvE, industry and trade the pure PvP. Simple fact and easy to see with simple direct observation. The fact that CCP has put so much effort into making these key game elements conerstones of the Eve sandbox proves the CCP believes in Eve as a SciFi simulator and not just an internet spaceships shoot a stranger in the face game you seem to think it is. If you don't believe CCP thinks of Eve as a SciFi simulator then you need to learn the "google" and do your homework.

That you rant so much about folks wanting the next level of SciFi simulation (ambulation) from Eve means you lack any interest in SciFi or a basic imagination.

I've been trying not to respond to negative troll types and I am ignoring anything some of the regular trolls post here but you deserve this one response. You are wrong about Eve, CCP, WiS.

And please keep bumping the thread. I'm hoping for 200 pages. But if you insist on posting more, try and evolve your argument to more than personal attacks and claims that you alone understand how Eve is supposed to be played and you opinion is the only correct one. You don't and it isn't.

I've stated my case for WiS with solid arguments and continue to call out to CCP to clarify plans for WiS moving forward, and despite the folks that say otherwise it appears that at this moment there are no resources assigned to WiS and no plans for further development. If someone can point me at a statement from CCP other than the phrase "back burnered" as that phrase is as likely to mean no resources as some resources (I linked multiple definitions previously) I'd love to be corrected.

CCP! Open the door!!!

Issler
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2084 - 2012-01-03 20:47:47 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:


CCP! Open the door!!!



I think im putting that in my sig...

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Mistrala DeLegra
Novus Alba FerrumSus
#2085 - 2012-01-03 21:08:01 UTC
The thing that makes me laugh about all these troll's telling people that EVE is not about "playing dress up" or Eve is not about being social, YET! you all took time out to creat a pretty respectful looking avitar pic, you took time to pose it, dress it, light it just right so that you look good to others (well with exception of a few trolls who still look fugly as sin lol), But as someone esle said, EVE is ever expanding and ever growing, Incarna has been a plan of CCP's for MANNNNNNY years!!! and hopefully they will follow through and resume work on it in the near future.

To the trolls i say, Its not for you to tell me i can or cant do something in this game, you dont pay my subscription fee so there for you have no say on how i decide to play my game, if i CHOOSE to spend my own hard earned RL money on AUR and buy vanity items (which i have) thats my business and my money to waste, stop crying about it, these forums are for EVERYONE to express there opinion, and lets face it, opinions are like A'holes, everyone has one, some have bigger ones than others lol....im firmly in the "CCP! Open the door!!!" camp ;)
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#2086 - 2012-01-03 21:44:33 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:

learn the "google" and do your homework.


I did. I googled you and considering your "track record" on eve-search, I am happy that CCP continues to ignore this thread of yours.

And how is your crave for attention going?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#2087 - 2012-01-03 22:04:17 UTC
Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread?
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2088 - 2012-01-03 22:07:59 UTC
Hikaru Kuroda wrote:
Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread?

Trolls.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#2089 - 2012-01-03 22:13:27 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Hikaru Kuroda wrote:
Why people who have nothing to do with the topic keep posting in this thread?

Trolls.


I know, but that is what I cannot understand.

They keep bumping the thread and do not want Incarna/WiS.

Why not to go to low/null for some spaceships pew-pew and take a break of forum-pvp, guys?
Kelsi Corynn
Doomheim
#2090 - 2012-01-03 22:16:46 UTC
I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner. Smile
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#2091 - 2012-01-03 22:54:11 UTC
Alpheias wrote:


And somehow I manage to get your attention all the time. Gonna ask me out, m'lady?


I'd hit worse. You're too bitchy to buy dinner for though.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2092 - 2012-01-04 01:41:43 UTC
Kelsi Corynn wrote:
I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner. Smile


Anybody wanna take bets that they are actually still working on WiS and just keeping it a secret so the little whiny bitches will shut the **** up about it? Twisted

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2093 - 2012-01-04 02:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Kelsi Corynn wrote:
I'm sure CCP will clarify their WIS plans in due time. But it'll be a while, because it's currently on the backburner. Smile


Anybody wanna take bets that they are actually still working on WiS and just keeping it a secret so the little whiny bitches will shut the **** up about it? Twisted


I have no doubt that *some* work is still being continued on WIS, but no one is going to get any answers until fanfest at the soonest, no matter how many pages this thread reaches, or how much crying, hand-wringing, philosophizing, and bleating for answers occurs here.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Jita Alt666
#2094 - 2012-01-04 02:24:21 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

I have no doubt that *some* work is still being continued on WIS, but you are not going to get any answers until fanfest at the soonest, no matter how many pages this thread reaches, or how much crying, hand-wringing, philosophizing, and bleating for answers occurs here.


Agree completely. Any-one else remember the 18 month fiasco from post Dominion?
Taiwanistan
#2095 - 2012-01-04 02:47:56 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:

There is a difference between griefing and pvp. Even from my pirating days I knew that.


But then you found Jesus and now, you want to play dress up with other like-minded cretins?

And I like both griefing and pvp, for different reasons.

Kuronaga wrote:

Frankly you just sound mentally disturbed if you want to focus your hatred on one particular person that much.


I am sorry, armchair psychiatrist, I don't listen to bullshit and you are both stunningly and embarrassingly full of ****.


Sad demented panda crying out "look at me"!

Good news is most of Eve knows how they want to play Eve and your opinion is not only the minority, but should Eve survive even more an outlier.

More time is spent in Eve in PvE, industry and trade the pure PvP. Simple fact and easy to see with simple direct observation. The fact that CCP has put so much effort into making these key game elements conerstones of the Eve sandbox proves the CCP believes in Eve as a SciFi simulator and not just an internet spaceships shoot a stranger in the face game you seem to think it is. If you don't believe CCP thinks of Eve as a SciFi simulator then you need to learn the "google" and do your homework.

That you rant so much about folks wanting the next level of SciFi simulation (ambulation) from Eve means you lack any interest in SciFi or a basic imagination.

I've been trying not to respond to negative troll types and I am ignoring anything some of the regular trolls post here but you deserve this one response. You are wrong about Eve, CCP, WiS.

And please keep bumping the thread. I'm hoping for 200 pages. But if you insist on posting more, try and evolve your argument to more than personal attacks and claims that you alone understand how Eve is supposed to be played and you opinion is the only correct one. You don't and it isn't.

I've stated my case for WiS with solid arguments and continue to call out to CCP to clarify plans for WiS moving forward, and despite the folks that say otherwise it appears that at this moment there are no resources assigned to WiS and no plans for further development. If someone can point me at a statement from CCP other than the phrase "back burnered" as that phrase is as likely to mean no resources as some resources (I linked multiple definitions previously) I'd love to be corrected.

CCP! Open the door!!!

Issler

see you are saying all you want is a progress update or statement of intent from ccp with the future of wis
and then you end it with the open the door!!!111 meme, and sad panda
you are ignoring the discussions (yes i only troll 80% of the time, 20% is discussion)
the core of which was that there IS NO PURPOSE OF WIS AS OF NOW
look at the postings of DeMichael Crimson, and even he agrees that it will inevitably take YEARS for ccp to realize their vision, and he is fine with it, that first steps must be taken even though they may seem meaningless, that it is all in preparation for the grander scheme of things, hey i am going to repeat it for you one more time, it takes years for ccp to "fix things" christ are you new to the ways of ccp?

and then here you are again repeating your juvenile open the door!!! like now!!! foot stomping, not engaging in the discussions, because you just want the door open, like it ain't no thing
that just makes me want to get uncivil, stoop to your level, it makes you look gullible, and your cause frivolous

what is wrong with dress-up and /emoting with a bunch of dudes?
read it again
DRESSING UP AND /EMOTING WITH A BUNCH OF DUDES, it's unseemly, and so is your meme flinging and yeah it's a bump, free of charge

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#2096 - 2012-01-04 03:09:29 UTC
I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry.
Taiwanistan
#2097 - 2012-01-04 03:12:21 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry.

that's actually kind of offensive

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Taiwanistan
#2098 - 2012-01-04 03:13:01 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:


CCP! Open the door!!!



I think im putting that in my sig...

nice i hope they have a special /grovelingus emote just for you

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#2099 - 2012-01-04 03:15:53 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry.

that's actually kind of offensive


Yea, you like that? Been working on that one.
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2100 - 2012-01-04 03:48:12 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
I think the marketing idea behind WiS was to get more chicks playing the game, so you wouldn't have to emote with dudes. Which is good, since they like playing with barbies they can stay back at the station all day to cook meals and do my laundry.

that's actually kind of offensive


Your entire alliance is offensive.