Ships & Modules

Hi all.

Since the training time for a T3D is really short, and they look to be very promising in solo PvP and PvE, I want to train into one. I'm currently training for the Jackdaw (missiles are my best trained weapon system), and the Svipul on a mission running alt. But truth be told I don't really know what the T3D's can do in PvE. Could you guys enlighten me?

I'd like to know which T3D is good in what kind of PvE, and how to fit them for it.
Do I go long range or brawling? Active tank or buffer? Which DED sites can I do? What level mission can a T3D handle?

I've read up on all four T3D's and I've mostly read people saying the Svipul is 'basically the best' T3D. The Confessor is 'awesome', the Jackdaw is 'bad' and about the Hecate I haven't really seen anything about besides the damage being good, apparantly. Now, this is all personal opinion I assume. But it makes me think about which T3D is best suited for what I want to do and keeping in mind the training of support skills for other less-developed weapon systems (for example, lasers, on this char).

Thanks for taking the time to reply o7

jackdaw is just like a small caracal, fit it with light missiles and a shield booster and you can do level 4 missions and probably 4/10 DEDs

Thanks for commenting!
Yesterday I acually quickly changed from training Caldari Destroyer to Amarr Destroyer. Shooting lasers (in a really cool looking hull) instead of missiles after all this time is something I'm really looking forward to. Despite having to pauze my training for a last few skills to V for an optimized Tengu :')

For PvE in the Confessor, is one Small Armor Repairer II enough for 4/10 and certain WH's? I'm not familiar enough with active armor tanking coming from ASB's/shields, and also totally unfamiliar with WH PvE to be honest. But I've seen fits with one repper, DC II and two armor resist modules.

Also, what are the positives/negatives for armor and shield tanked Svipul? My mission running alt on which I'm training for the Svipul is also shield trained.

Thing about the confessor is the lack of damage selection but it shouldn't hold you back too much.

If you can fly correctly and get good transversal on larger targets the t2 armour repper should be fine. For wormholes I guess you'd be able to solo C2 sites with close to maxed skills.

Yeah I was thinking that aswell. Would have to look for specific rats which isn't a problem, been doing that flying other ships aswell. Might be nice, see some new sights other than the cold blue/grayness of Caldari space or the rusted skies of Minmatar all the time :P

Only thing worth mentioning that could be troublesome is an unoptimized fit, mainly missing a T2 armor tank. T2 lasers I'll have in 3+ days with already decent gunnery support skills trained, but the Hull Upgrades V of 9+ days of training I'm not looking forward to :P would it be a big issue if i meta an energized adaptive nano membrane?

Fair advice, thanks :P

Anyone any thoughts on the positives and negatives on fitting an armor tanked Svipul against a shield tanked Svipul?

after some missioning/WH/plexing on T3D, some thoughts:
1) Confessor (beam) - best of all 4. can do almost all L3 (both blitz and genocide) and some L4 blitz (spies for example).
for plexing better than worm/gila (up to 4/10)
wormhole C1 class without problem, wolf-rayette up to C3 class.
2) Hecate (railgun) - same as confessor, but you need to carry a lot of ammo. no plase for more loot. but excellent defense mode
3) Svipul (artillery) - can do L3/WH C1. But lack in range, so you need to spend more time on mission than confessor/hecate. ammo in cargo, 10s reload time. but excellent defense mode.
4) Jackdaw (rocket and light missile) - same as svipul. in WH your have a problem that called - damage delayed aplication... and ammo in cargo...
P.S. damage selection for hecate/confessor is a mith. if you have a lot of dps you don't need another type of ammo.

as you ask (armor fit):
Confessor, Big beam:

4xSmall Focused Beam Laser II
Core Probe launcher II, 8xCore Scanner Probe I
Salvager I

2xEutectic Compact Cap Recharger
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

3xHeat Sink II
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II

Small Energy Locus Coordinator II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

sharpshooter mode: Imperial Multi - 16+3km@487dps/1340 alpha; Aurora - 59+3km@282dps/777 alpha
other mode's: imperial Multi - 10+3km; Aurora - 36+3km
capacitor enough for 3,5 minutes

tips and comments:
i do not think that my fit is good for you. From your fit i see that you have fears and phobies like tank, capacitor and tracking.
and you need 200+ dps for safely+quickly (in small ship) doing WH sites. if not - you will be killed by sleepers.

A PvP fit kite Confessor can do all the Sansha/Blood 2-4/10s with ease as well as belt rat around lowsec quite competently. Also since it's PvP fit you stand a good chance against people trying to mess with you. Oh, also you can have an expanded probe launcher to scan down other people doing DEDs and hunt them down to steal their sites as well as scan down DEDs.

Very versatile and very useful. I don't have a fit on me right now since I'm not at home, but message me in-game and I can send it to you if you like.

You can do everything up to and including 6/10 in a 10mn confessor (at least with links), just takes forever (at least angel ones).