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Dear CCP - Some numbers for you to look at regarding FW vs Null Sec
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beor oranes
Annihilate.
#41 - 2012-01-03 05:19:15 UTC
Just a suggestion but why don't you post in the Features and Idea's section on how you would like Faction Warfare to be fixed and try and get some support for it, that way CCP might actually pay some more attention to your whining.

Just shouting 'FIX FACTION WARFARE CCP' really isn't being constructive, its called being a five year old.
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-01-03 05:47:02 UTC
beor oranes wrote:
Just a suggestion but why don't you post in the Features and Idea's section on how you would like Faction Warfare to be fixed and try and get some support for it, that way CCP might actually pay some more attention to your whining.

Just shouting 'FIX FACTION WARFARE CCP' really isn't being constructive, its called being a five year old.

FYI there is already a number of threads on these. The last I saw from CCP being involved with them was Soundwave theorising that they could remove the navies from high sec.

So I'm concentrating on making some noise that might get CCP to come look at FW. Once they actually start talking to us, then we can discuss the ideas...
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#43 - 2012-01-03 07:18:25 UTC
Well I looked at the numbers and actually null sec was nerfed. So with your expectations FW would be nerfed actually not made better. I really dont know where you are coming from or so. Null sec has been ignored at best really. FW shouldnt even be showing its head right now since an axe would most likely fall on it, then angel kisses.

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Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-01-03 07:55:09 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Well I looked at the numbers and actually null sec was nerfed. So with your expectations FW would be nerfed actually not made better. I really dont know where you are coming from or so. Null sec has been ignored at best really. FW shouldnt even be showing its head right now since an axe would most likely fall on it, then angel kisses.

Funny guy. FW hasn't been touched since it was released bar adding a few things to the LP store and some work on the plex respawn system.
Null has had many things done to it. Stations, moon mining, sov, supers etc...
Lexmana
#45 - 2012-01-03 08:19:45 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Well I looked at the numbers and actually null sec was nerfed. So with your expectations FW would be nerfed actually not made better. I really dont know where you are coming from or so. Null sec has been ignored at best really. FW shouldnt even be showing its head right now since an axe would most likely fall on it, then angel kisses.


You should see a doctor mate ... I think that monocle of yours is eating into your brain.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#46 - 2012-01-03 09:52:50 UTC
Confirming there are only 4 alliances in Nullsec. Everyone else isn an NPC.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#47 - 2012-01-03 21:54:13 UTC
Kelsi Corynn wrote:
I've never been a fan of having a realm versus realm PVP system in EVE (faction warfare). Why? It generates PVP based on an arbitrary IP-related choice, rather than the conflicts emerging entirely from players' own whims/acts/egos. It's PVP on rails. RVR has a solid place in MMOs that are more focused on instant gratification, but if the focus of EVE player conflict starts revolving around factions, that would be get dull fast in my opinion.Smile


I would view FW more as a catalyst for player derived PvP than PvP on rails. Keep in mind FW doesn't operate in a bubble, we get plenty of fights with the local pirates, and a substantial number of us are unabashed pirates ourselves. The numbers posted before are probably fairly skewed due to the number of inactive players and mission running in FW. For the Caldari in particular the number of non-PvP mission runners is pretty troublesome.

In general I've found that FW lets PvP take more of a center stage (particularly skirmish PvP) in comparison to the experience I've had in Null.

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-01-03 23:24:30 UTC
How is listing 5% of the null-sec population and comparing it with 100% of the FW population in anyway a fair comparison?

Problem with FW is always going to be the ease of spying, making any serious fleet deployment only doable by the corps in FW who don't allow random people in.

-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more) 
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#49 - 2012-01-03 23:35:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
comparing FW to only 4 alliances in a realm where coalitions are the norm, and there are several hundred alliances involved, is pretty damn meaningless. just saying.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CFC alone outnumbers all of the FW players, including the bajillions of people who don't actually take part in FW but you decided to include. I don't recall ever hearing about battles involving several thousand players in FW...
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-01-04 00:25:01 UTC
Death by 1000 papercuts good sir. Death by 1000 papercuts.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
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