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Standard Armageddon more useful than Navy Armageddon!
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Beanhead2
The Bean Consortium
#1 - 2015-08-31 23:06:10 UTC
Some time ago now all T1 BS were rebalanced. After the rebalance I found that the Armageddon was a very useful and adaptive ship to use for pve. I have been waiting for some time for the navy Armageddon to get the same treatment but it dose not seem to be happening. The ship has not been rebalanced at all and still has old bonuses ect.. This means I would rather fly the T1 hull instead than the navy one. I spose this makes life cheaper for me but I have the isk and LP for faction so it's disappointing that the Navy version seems to have been left out in the cold.

T1 Armageddon Navy Armageddon
Amarr Battleship Bonus per lvl Amarr Battleship bonus per lvl
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage 5% bonus to large energy turret rate of fire
10% bonus to energy vampire and energy neuttralizer transfer range 10% bonus to large energy turret activation cost

My suggestion for Navy Armageddon
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage
10% bonus to energy vampire and energy neuttralizer transfer range
3-4% to armor resistances
Beanhead2
The Bean Consortium
#2 - 2015-08-31 23:09:54 UTC
Sorry the bonus lists should be separated sorry if the post looks confusing.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#3 - 2015-08-31 23:41:55 UTC
They aren't going to change the Navy Geddon, why would they? The original geddon was awesome.

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-09-01 00:01:09 UTC
navy ships aren't just direct upgrades to their regular ones.

Navy geddon is still a powerhouse pulse brawler with a utility high, not much else can compare with it's in your face DPS apart from navy mega/vindi

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2015-09-01 00:46:46 UTC
So basically an Armageddon with 4% armor resistances. Other than the fact you'll never get three hull bonuses, what's the point of the energy vampire and neutralizer range in PvE?

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#6 - 2015-09-01 00:54:18 UTC
nope! navy geddon should stay as is as a legacy to the monster gankageddon of old. the new t1 geddon has a very unique role and is pretty awesome, but the navy geddon is just perfect as is.

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The Bigpuns
United Standings Improvement Agency
#7 - 2015-09-01 07:28:20 UTC
You want to turn the navy geddon into a substandard drone boat? Why?

T1 geddon is versatile (can use lazors or missiles, plus drones), Ngeddon is a max dps lazor brawler...
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#8 - 2015-09-01 08:42:06 UTC
Sorry but the NavyGeddon is one of the finest face melt BS it has been my pleasure to fly and it should stay that way.

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Beanhead2
The Bean Consortium
#9 - 2015-09-01 08:56:09 UTC
Ok so people seem to like the Navy Armageddon as it is. I not sure it is the dps king it used to be, looking at the rebalace but people don't like change and I have more important things to worry aboutSmile thanks for the feed back guys. o7
Beanhead2
The Bean Consortium
#10 - 2015-09-01 08:58:10 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
So basically an Armageddon with 4% armor resistances. Other than the fact you'll never get three hull bonuses, what's the point of the energy vampire and neutralizer range in PvE?

Vampire can be very useful when fighting blood raiders who cant shoot but like to empty your cap.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#11 - 2015-09-01 09:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Val'Dore
Beanhead2 wrote:
Ok so people seem to like the Navy Armageddon as it is. I not sure it is the dps king it used to be, looking at the rebalace but people don't like change and I have more important things to worry aboutSmile thanks for the feed back guys. o7


It breaks 1200 dps without sweating.

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Tirian Ratcliffe
New Eden Tactical Logistics
#12 - 2015-09-01 12:29:37 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Beanhead2 wrote:
Ok so people seem to like the Navy Armageddon as it is. I not sure it is the dps king it used to be, looking at the rebalace but people don't like change and I have more important things to worry aboutSmile thanks for the feed back guys. o7


It breaks 1200 dps without sweating.


Not without drones it doesn't. I think it's something like 1080 DPS assuming four Faction HS, T2 Pulse and Conflag.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-09-01 12:37:26 UTC
I think everyone counts drones in a ship's DPS if it has the capacity for them.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2015-09-01 18:29:15 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I think everyone counts drones in a ship's DPS if it has the capacity for them.


especially on a plated brawler where they are going to be in range.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#15 - 2015-09-01 21:43:04 UTC
Tirian Ratcliffe wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Beanhead2 wrote:
Ok so people seem to like the Navy Armageddon as it is. I not sure it is the dps king it used to be, looking at the rebalace but people don't like change and I have more important things to worry aboutSmile thanks for the feed back guys. o7


It breaks 1200 dps without sweating.


Not without drones it doesn't. I think it's something like 1080 DPS assuming four Faction HS, T2 Pulse and Conflag.


Why wouldn't drones be accounted for? Do you not count drone DPS on the Dominix or Armageddon?

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-09-01 23:46:01 UTC
Navyddon is a doctrine laser platform. The beast with amazimg fire and dps projection. Why the hell you are sugeesting drones and neuts?!?!?!

Damn gallente heretics woul like to seed their "drone" doctrine everywhere.

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