Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And for us bittervets who know this is a bad idea;
Would we retroactively get 500k~1m sp for every month are accounts have been active?

Not to mention eve is a game of patience giving out accelerated SP would only lead to more subs being dropped.

As for usual newbro catching up to a vet, each ship can only benefit from X number of skills and which as you know are capped at level 5 so to takes a new player the same amount of time as it took a vet to fly the ship.

Next point is SP means very little in the long run keeping I mind the point above a new player can have lots of fun and benefit a fleet with only a day or so of SP, for hero mode only takes a few hours.

No retroactive SP to be given out, just something new. And how does a new player with low SP and not know the game able to fly good in a fleet. A vet who makes a alt can do that easily, not someone brand new to the game. This idea isn't to benefit vet players be to help keep new people into the game, one of the biggest complaints, besides them being ganked and war dec'd all the time is that they few thy can't compete with more vet players SP wise. This is something to help retain more new players, not help out vets.

Even with 50 million skill points given to them at sign up a true new player still would not know how to fly in a fleet, so this statement is not relevant to the situation.

That is true, but not wanting new players to be given SP like that, a small bonus each month would be enough to help them get SP faster to help them continue on the game. They still need a learning curve to get to know the many little aspects of this game.

Who told you that the SP is the problem of new player. The should learn to wait a bit and train. If not they will cry as soon as there new officerfitted golem (or something else) has died. You can be very effective with t1 ships and they don´t take that long to skill.

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You just asking for a t20 incident with a feature like this

No

I do think 50k starting sp is rather a joke considering the amount of skills that are in the game.

I'd say increase the starting amount of sp and when it's introduced everyone gets the increased amount.


But anyway I believe CCP are looking into this already.

A better question would be when are they likely to change it.





It's interesting when you look back at things that have happened in EVE's history.

Like did you know that they had learning skill books that when learnt increased your attributes and training speed?

It seems they used to start with around 800 - 900k sp, but when learning books were removed the starting sp was reduced to 50k. Which to me looks like give something with one hand and take it back with the other.

Did you also know that ship skills destroyers and battlecruisers used to be just the one skill book, so now it takes 4x as long to learn the skills if you want to fly all race ships?


So I don't see how people can say it was the same for them as it was different for them.

Its not arrogance, its a sense of entitlement, one justified to a certain extent. We put our time and money in this game, we like some of these rewards as well. Ideally a company should keep its established client base happy. We paid the bills longer than the noob.


that and I as bring up often in these threads this is a gamble. Potentially **** off your current client base hoping the result you are looking for happens. Risky gamble here in my opinion.

See some like you have a theory people don't pvp because of sp numbers. I think this is flawed tbh. My theory is people will pvp if the desire is actually there.

This based on me personally and dealing with other players like me. I started low sec roam 1.5 months into this game. At 3 months I was in a noob friendly 0.0 home. Same with a lot of peeps I came over to this game from another game we played.

The backstory: I came to eve with others in a guild from another game. It was a pvp oriented guild. We already had the pvp in our blood as it were. We rushed to it in eve as soon as we could. Money in the bank to cover ship loss was only concern. At 1.5 months of mission spamming....we could buy some frigates. Off to have fun we went.

Now did we dominate on those low sec roams? Hell no. At first it was fugly as we learned how pvp works in eve. 0.0 start had its fair share of noobtard lessons as well. But we pressed on all the same.

One can look at a learning curve and go its scary and avoid it till higher sp. Or....put themselves on that learning curve soonest and just go hold on tight, its gonna be a bumpy ride.

You see.....at 3 mil sp or even 100 mil + mil sp that learning curve is pita to climb up. Seen this with several years playing bears going 0.0. PVE running? Pro's at that. Basic pvp stuff, to be nice to them since they took that plunge to show some balls they were a (lots of) work in progress project to get up to speed.


Never did I view lack of sp an issue. TBH the sp is a lie to me. PVP to me about having some balls and some heart. If you go man I can never take that guy he is soooo far ahead in sp I will lose, its a self fulfilling prophecy. One needs to go into pvp going I got this ****....Positive mental outlook. You may get your ass stomped. Or you may get that nullbear who couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bag when they aren't in a 400 BS fleet spamming f1 on FC calls.

But you never know till you jump on in.