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EVE 4K Issue

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O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-08-31 20:10:56 UTC
^^$250+shipping and they are yours. I dont think eve allows crossfire.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-08-31 23:25:48 UTC
Thomas Gallant wrote:
Hmm, well I'm playing with a 4k monitor and at 150% scaling and that seems to make text big enough for me, granted I'm using a 27" monitor and sitting a lot closer than I would to a 55" TV. But perhaps a way to scale text independantly of the rest of the UI seems like it'd be useful. I do that in other games, scale up the text size because they offer that option (in addition to scaling the UI size up)



I can only see good things coming from this. I personnally think 4K look better on a larger screen than a smaller one. Im also sitting no more then 5 feet away from my TV. Also whats the difference between a 4k monitor and a 4k TV? I dont see how gaming on a monitor or tv would make any difference.
LT Alter
Ryba.
White Squall.
#23 - 2015-08-31 23:48:42 UTC
Have you attempted to edit the UI scaling above 150% by using going to the settings file located in AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings?

I found the UI scaling setting in the file but I'm not going to attempt to edit it, no need to mess up my settings :P
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-08-31 23:50:58 UTC
LT Alter wrote:
Have you attempted to edit the UI scaling above 150% by using going to the settings file located in AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings?

I found the UI scaling setting in the file but I'm not going to attempt to edit it, no need to mess up my settings :P


No but I will take a look at it when I get home. Will let you know tomorrow if it worked or not.
LT Alter
Ryba.
White Squall.
#25 - 2015-08-31 23:53:24 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
I personnally think 4K look better on a larger screen than a smaller one. Im also sitting no more then 5 feet away from my TV. Also whats the difference between a 4k monitor and a 4k TV? I dont see how gaming on a monitor or tv would make any difference.


TVs generally have a worse response time (Sort of like your ping, it'll take longer for the image the GPU makes to show up on your screen), though it isn't really a huge issue for a game like eve.
LT Alter
Ryba.
White Squall.
#26 - 2015-08-31 23:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: LT Alter
O2 jayjay wrote:
LT Alter wrote:
Have you attempted to edit the UI scaling above 150% by using going to the settings file located in AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings?

I found the UI scaling setting in the file but I'm not going to attempt to edit it, no need to mess up my settings :P


No but I will take a look at it when I get home. Will let you know tomorrow if it worked or not.


Make sure you back up the settings first :)

Edit: Also note it's the core_public_.yaml file.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-09-01 00:16:56 UTC
LT Alter wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
I personnally think 4K look better on a larger screen than a smaller one. Im also sitting no more then 5 feet away from my TV. Also whats the difference between a 4k monitor and a 4k TV? I dont see how gaming on a monitor or tv would make any difference.


TVs generally have a worse response time (Sort of like your ping, it'll take longer for the image the GPU makes to show up on your screen), though it isn't really a huge issue for a game like eve.


I thought refresh rate is what controled how quick images showed up on your screen. My TV is capable of displaying 120 FPS at 4k. I could be wrong tho but this is what iI thought.
LT Alter
Ryba.
White Squall.
#28 - 2015-09-01 00:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: LT Alter
O2 jayjay wrote:
LT Alter wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
I personnally think 4K look better on a larger screen than a smaller one. Im also sitting no more then 5 feet away from my TV. Also whats the difference between a 4k monitor and a 4k TV? I dont see how gaming on a monitor or tv would make any difference.


TVs generally have a worse response time (Sort of like your ping, it'll take longer for the image the GPU makes to show up on your screen), though it isn't really a huge issue for a game like eve.


I thought refresh rate is what controled how quick images showed up on your screen. My TV is capable of displaying 120 FPS at 4k. I could be wrong tho but this is what iI thought.


Refresh rate is a different metric, that's how many times the screen updates per second, not how long it takes the screen to take an image from the GPU to be displayed.

For example, I could be streaming online at 60 fps with a delay of 5 seconds, I'm still streaming the same 60 frames every second, but everyone else is seeing those frames after a delay.

Most good gaming monitors operate at a 2 to 8 millisecond delay, most 2015 4k TV's (from my brief online check just now) operate at 30-70 ms delays. I looked the samsung 2015 one and if it's the one you're using it has a delay of 36 ms.

Basically it's like adding a ping of 36 to everything you do in game and out.

Edit: Excuse me that was the 1080p one, the 4k one says its 57ms.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-09-01 13:33:02 UTC
LT Alter wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
LT Alter wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
I personnally think 4K look better on a larger screen than a smaller one. Im also sitting no more then 5 feet away from my TV. Also whats the difference between a 4k monitor and a 4k TV? I dont see how gaming on a monitor or tv would make any difference.


TVs generally have a worse response time (Sort of like your ping, it'll take longer for the image the GPU makes to show up on your screen), though it isn't really a huge issue for a game like eve.


I thought refresh rate is what controled how quick images showed up on your screen. My TV is capable of displaying 120 FPS at 4k. I could be wrong tho but this is what iI thought.


Refresh rate is a different metric, that's how many times the screen updates per second, not how long it takes the screen to take an image from the GPU to be displayed.

For example, I could be streaming online at 60 fps with a delay of 5 seconds, I'm still streaming the same 60 frames every second, but everyone else is seeing those frames after a delay.

Most good gaming monitors operate at a 2 to 8 millisecond delay, most 2015 4k TV's (from my brief online check just now) operate at 30-70 ms delays. I looked the samsung 2015 one and if it's the one you're using it has a delay of 36 ms.

Basically it's like adding a ping of 36 to everything you do in game and out.

Edit: Excuse me that was the 1080p one, the 4k one says its 57ms.


Didnt know that. Thanks for the info. When i play games the sound and everything is tied in pretty good. Its only if im streaming have i notice a bad delay.
NekoKitten
Neko Industry 'n' PvE
#30 - 2015-09-01 14:00:58 UTC
I'm using an iiyama 29 inch 4K screen with one GTX970, works brilliantly. I usually set the GUI to 125%, so I can fit 2 eve windows next to each other ^_^

55 inch @ 5m would be an eye strain I bet.
O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-09-01 14:21:16 UTC
NekoKitten wrote:
I'm using an iiyama 29 inch 4K screen with one GTX970, works brilliantly. I usually set the GUI to 125%, so I can fit 2 eve windows next to each other ^_^

55 inch @ 5m would be an eye strain I bet.


Seems like im the only one using a large 4K screen tonplay eve >_<
Media freak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2015-09-01 23:27:29 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
NekoKitten wrote:
I'm using an iiyama 29 inch 4K screen with one GTX970, works brilliantly. I usually set the GUI to 125%, so I can fit 2 eve windows next to each other ^_^

55 inch @ 5m would be an eye strain I bet.


Seems like im the only one using a large 4K screen tonplay eve >_<



I have one but its rare eve ever goes on it. the 4k is for things that require the whole screen and eve is very rarely that.
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