Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Instead of skillpoints being acquired by this queue system and waiting for skills to level up, perhaps a more dynamic system that would engage the player to play would be more beneficial.

So to train small hybrid turrets I would inject the skill, allowing me to use the blasters/railguns and then depending on the usage (i.e. damage) I would then accrue skillpoints. To differentiate between abuse (i.e. shooting rookie ships to effectively mine the skillpoints, or just shooting fleeting/corp members with logi present and so on) there of course would be failsafes. Accrument of course is contextual, sitting in a ship does not raise your relevant ship skill by anything but taking damage, using other modules, acrruing other skillpoints in other skills relevant to your ship usage will also enable skill points to generate as well as being subject to EWAR for certain skills. This leaves the question, could I sit in a ship and use that eternally to get to level 5? I don't think so, I think to get level 5 skill points you must have a good idea of how to successfully use all ships of that category. Kills, escaping and so on should all be rated on how you acquire skillpoints. If you lose your ship, ok so you don't get more skill points until you get another one.

"No"

Indeed, no.

The best part about EVE system is that you don't have to limit your playstyle to "level up" optimally (or almost optimally, depending on your opinion on learning implants). You can literally do anything while training for anything.

I don't know why it's a good idea to change that and make it obligatory damage mining. Or EWAR effects mining. Or...

EVE already have enough content-devoid grind, we don't need even more.

**** No.

One of the best elements of eve is the passive skill point system.

It means that it's about the only mmo where I (an adult with children and fairly limited time for eve) am not at a major disadvantage to some 16 yold with no responsibilitys and all the time in the world.

With your spare time you are free to go grid out as much isk as you care to but my characters progression should not be lesser to yours simply because I have a more Labour intensive and time consuming life.

edit: I'll learn how to spell one of these days.

The only exhibition that negative responses on this idea are setting up is that, if there was a grind method for improving SP, a majority would do it.

Basically what you're effectively asking for is for GMs to award skillpoints. Because you can't just say "well of course there would be failsafes". I can with equal justice say "lol those failsafes can be trivially evaded".

What failsafes? How smart do you envisage this system being?

People with bots and free time would do it.
People who dont have bots and have rl commitments couldn't do it.

People who pve could do it lots.
People who pvp couldn't.

Or we can just treat everyone the same.

SP could be awarded from actions only in limited scale. Like completing an opportunity could reward you with set amount of skillpoints to set skill. This could be away to distribute first 2M SP and could not be grinded (as there is direct restriction).

This would probably fix the first 2 weeks for people with a lot of time to play the game

As state in thread, in proposed way this is not possible.

Welcome to EVE where any mechanic that provides real, tangible advantages that cannot be taken away ceases to be "optional" and merely becomes "standard operating procedure."

No to grinding mechanics.

God no. I would unsub immediately. I don't have a lot of time to play. A few hours a week if I'm lucky. I want to spend that time actually out DOING something, not trying to grind out skills the most optimal way so I can have at least a tiny hope of competing against anyone else.

One of the primary reasons I play EVE is because I don't have to grind skills. I can use passive ISK-making activities to fund myself, and my char improves as I'm away from the keyboard doing real-life work and living. When free time permits, I can hop on, have fun, and walk away when life comes calling again without being a thousand years behind everyone else.

If you want an experience grind, go back to WoW or literally almost every other MMO that exists.