EVE General Discussion

If you want to play EVE solo or you are forced to play solo most of the times due to RL circumstances you have to pay a lot of bills to gain experience and work out a personal way how to deal with this game. And I tell you from my experience as a player since 2006: no risk, no losses, no EVE. The fail never ends. I have worked out a solid way to PvP but I have to live with the fact that I will lose my ship. It's just a matter of time.

Running pure solo in PvP without alts will need a lot of experience, knowledge about proper ship setups working for solo PvP and you are maybe limited to a few ship classes. It doesn't make sense to run around blindly in a Cruiser, BC or BS. It will not take long and you crash into a gatecamp or random fleet and that's it. If you decide to PvP in a nano setup you have to learn to master the grid. All this is finally still complicated. And you never will be perfect. You will have your good and bad moments because you face real brains and not stupid AI.

The annyoing moment in EVE is not losing a fight. It's the time to run back to a trading hub and grab a new ship what you might lose 30 minutes later again. ISK is ofc for many players a serious issue. If you are not in a decent nullsec crop with access to a fast income you'll get broke fast. Working out a proper income in EVE will push you away from PvP. Everyone who lived in nullsec knows what I am talking about. Decent PvPer will become lazy PvEers. There are ofc people making billions in short schedules but most of the people don't have these possibilities. I don't like those posts where people try to tell you that it's so easy to make a billion in an hour. It's not and it never will be for most of the players. The only alternative is to buy GTC for PLEX. It would make no sense to PvE for days just to reimburse a single expensive loss. Without a good RL income it's also not an option.

The only way to lower the risk and boost the chance to survive and be more successful in EVE is running with 1-2 more accounts. A hauler sub-alt for assets logistics is a must have. One account for just scouting is a big step forward. This will give you eyes and important intel for your main. But also this needs more training and experience. Usually your alt will be a cloaky Falcon a**hole or a nullified booster with probes. It all opens more possibilities but also the risk to lose two ships in a fight.

Multiboxing has different levels. Your alt will simply stay cloaky or will be decloaked and aligned with links on a safe spot when the fight starts. You can't really focus on two accounts on grid when you fight multiple targets. The longer you play the more setups you will figure out but finally you might stay with one or two solid ones. I even tried to run with two Guaridans. It's fun but this needs a strict routine, a really proper overview setup, some special short-cuts and once one of them is jammed you lose completely the control of your little fleet by juggling through the screens, trying to rechain the **** and in the meantime your main dies followed by the Guardians.

My last loss was an EVE classic. I watched in a crowded system a cruiser sitting at a bubble. Nothing on scan means nothing. I'll check zkill for intel. I'll wait for a fight to see what comes else. But after half an hour I lost patience. I took the risk - expecting a trap - and engaged, dscan filled up. Got outnumered and neuted when the Rupture was nearly into structure: lost tackle ... died. That's EVE.

This game is and will be still complicated and a challange. That's why I still play it.

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T3Ds are hardly a smaller ship.
Just because it's not a cruiser hull means nothing. T3Ds get as much if not more tank than cruisers.

Uhuh.. Telling the dude who fought till he had nothing to fight with but the isk for a cheap atron, and now that I am at the point where I can afford a destroyer or such, they will bring enough to kill me flat without risking anything, there is no way to fight what they have on my own i'd have to PLEX into more powerful ships to stand a chance.


And when was I ever a blobber? Occasionally being in a fleet makes me a blobber? I solo more than 3 times as much as I fleet.

The bright side is now the systems the Russians were in is outright packed with PVP rabid neutral players, therefor the Russians are nowhere to be found. But I still have to relocate or be camped both sides and station.

im considering going back to mining and random industry isk activities. I bankrupted myself because I didn't have a lot of available isk to begin with and it got to the point where it was literally impossible to capture a plex without huge interference. They didn't even bring the complex back down on me.

They were literally persistent enough to prevent any plexing, and my presence in the system only encouraged them to sit groups in every plex. So since they weren't plexing to begin with but were only in the sites in an attempt to catch me I simply left for good, returning near the end I would notice a site I opened in the morning untouched by maybe a minute their way since I left. They would still return quite quickly.


Again they aren't around since I haven't returned for about a week, and others (unrelated to FW) seem to have piled that way.

There is something uncomfortably aspergian about being "camped 23/7". Game or not, it just feels weird, like getting stalked online. (though it's not stalking, it feels like it). It's that "they have nothing better to do " element.

The only way to beat people like that is to never present them a target while giving them a reason to chase.

Lets demand CCP to make eve a more solo friendly game. It is unfrair that someone has more time, money and friends to play the game. It is unfair that in some places a lot of people take eve online seriously as a challenge for their capacity, yet that the real World is too easy to go by. It is really unfair that some people can get 30, 40 toons and do weired ****.

It is all so unfair. I dont see anyone getting so sympathetic about "Scrooge McGank and the Ganktales" staying 24/7 in a system poping ships with no guns to fight. Then when you get some Ganktales and you consider youself a pvper, it is unfair. And it is CCP to blame that you cant stop others to gettting involved in a fight.

The tears from people who actually had guns and got popped aynways are more salty than those from miners and haulers.

Alright since it looks like OP lost his steam let's make a summary of what happened.

"Help guize I didn't GIT GUD in FW now I'm leaving it to do mining, industry and other carebear activities in highsec because I couldn't afford what I can fly to lose repeatedly. Also people point out my corp is bad and I should feel bad."

That was insensitive. Carebears are a important part of New Eden. Without them, who the "Elite PvPers" who only shoot ships that cant shot back would shoot ?



As I said, the only ones who seem to not embrace the collective playstyle are the "Unitedstatians" (Americans cant be used) and British, because everyone else does.

Because believe it or not... some people actually shoot back in PVP while still making money. Yes I know it's hard to comprehend.