EVE General Discussion

I really hope these new clothes will be released on TQ soon.. There's some awesome Leather Gear that'd be perfect for me to go clubbing in at a certain type of Gentlemans Establishment..

But I'm still seeing a distinct lack of backless leather chaps even on SISI..

I suggest you get back to WoW (the most basic comparable game) and attempt to buy those winged lion cubs, special pets and mounts with the ingame gold you can farm in raids.... oh wait YOU CAN'T.

The biggest Issue with EVE and MT it's the simple and absurd way that if you TIE anything to ingame trade then you are giving it a valuable price in RL.

It's absurd and maybe it's ******** but the only way CCP can revert the NEX shop it's to erase the NEX items from ingame market, and as far make them tradeable(or make the possibility to gift them) , then ADD the option to buy Aurum straight for Euros, dollars or whatever.

That's the biggest mistake CCP did with the NEX shop, Tie it to the ingame money wich turned it into a Vanity for ingame rich players, not a vanity for players with spare cash outgame as the NEX shop stand now it's not about who can spare 60-80 euros/dollars for a monocle, but who has the money or can spare time to farm it, for me it's a weekend of Isk farm, for some others a day of Market pvp, for most of the players several weeks of Hard farm.

P.S: i still think the Aurum cost should make the cloth prices in the 3-5 euro/dollar range, it's not about make a collection of clothes but find 3-4 pieces you like and buy it to give a more personalized look.

Wow so the russians get a coat for subscribing to EVE??? what do the rest of us get then???? im dutch, do i get a red white and blue coat????/ and if so then where is it??? kinda sucky that the rest of us get jacked!!!

heh, bump. I'd love to see bpos made for them.

CCP karkur was kind enough to answer us during the holiday week, when I'm sure most CCP folk were away from work. Also, I'm assuming CCP is in the post-Crucible-OK-that-kinda-worked-now-what planning stages... though I hope that's not what they name the next expansion. They may not know what they're going to do themselves, let alone be prepared to tell us about it. Patience, please.

PLEX being an accepted part of the game, AUR being a tarnished brand loathed almost universally. Of course they would back AUR, marketing geniuses.

Yes they are effectively the same, although its an annoying mechanism and insulting at the same time. No need for both.

In spite your rude reply I agree with you, the two problems are the duplication and the insanely inflated pricing strategy, factor of ten may not be enough, but would be a good start. (Well I'd add a third problem: marketing. CCP alienating its base with these ideas. Keeping Aurum after all the evidence that its a failed brand.)

Is it possible that PLEX is more... "pay to keep up"?

For example, I have sold PLEX for ISK, because I don't have the play time to make money, so I had all sorts of skills for ships I couldn't afford to fly. I'm working on capital ships, and I will probably use PLEX to assist the acquisition of said capital ship. But no matter how much I spend on PLEX, I am not going to be able to fly a capital ship any time within the next month, because my skill points aren't there.

Right, that's the counterbalancing that I was speaking of. No matter how much ISK you have, its only a component of how effective you can be.

But all other things being equal, PLEX redeemers have a huge advantage. Hence its at least partially pay to win at this point.

Its getting a bit boring explaining this point to the same people in 1001 different threads.

NeX is evil because its about offering content we expected to be provided through traditional sandbox industries (CCP led us to believe that Incarna would have establishments where you sell stuff made by players to other players) purely through the lazy microtransaction "push $ button get stuff" model that has absolutely nothing to do with traditional eve gameplay. NeX has rightly been seen as removing sand from the sandbox because the concept denies players the opportunity to play with the industries that Incarna should have enabled.

NeX is evil because it presents an argument that our subscription fees are no longer enough to get access to the whole of eve online. That in order to get access to the whole of the content you need subscription+MT. This subdivides the player base between RL haves and have nots and erects a microtransaction based paywall between available content. It is certainly evil because it helped push Eve into the unsub cycle we saw this autumn as players began to doubt the value of their subscription in the shadow of our new MT overlords.

NeX is evil because it introduced indestructible player possessions into a game that once prided itself on risk/reward and the cold realistic nature of its game world. While Eve is happy to have players losing the value of a family saloon car when their Titan's explode the NeX commissars decided that Monocles would be invulnerable and eternal because thats the only way they could justify the ridiculous price. This made a mockery of the concept from the beginning and was a very sad day for eve.

NeX is evil because its a foot in the door for creeping Microtransactions in Eve. "Vanity" clothing was first. Ship skins will be next. Corp and Alliance logos will follow. Soon any new customization of your avatar or ships or corporate interface could be sold only for Aurum and while clothes can be sold on the market you can bet not everything planned for the future can be.This is definitely the wrong direction for a successful and thriving single server MMO that once prided itself on daring to be different.

NeX is evil because its a crass defilement of existing PF political realities in New Eden. Amarr-owned clothing chains getting exclusive rights to sell clothes in the stations of the people they are at war with (and trying to enslave) yeah right. Its evil because rather than having the new content brought into the game by loyalty point stores with factional agenda and backstory its all plonked down like a badly organized wallmart store with flashing neon $ signs on the outside. Its cheap. It lacks any background credibility, and it actively works to break people's suspension of disbelief.

NeX is evil because it was the brainchild of CCP monocle and CCP thousand dollar jeans who believed that rather than playing games to relax and suspend our disbelief in our leisure time we should instead play games to continue the crass echos of consumer greed culture that haunt our waking lives. In essence they (and the NeX store) posit that if you are a "loser" in real life (ie don't have a good job nice house and expensive clothes) then you should continue to be a "loser" in your virtual life where the lack of $ fed virtual currency will ensure you continue to dress in thrift store space fashions while aristocratic space bankers laugh at you with mink coats and monocles.

So much for playing games to relax and escape your worries for a while in the space opera of New Eden - so much for playing a member of the "capsuleer elite" (who can own planets and access a luxury lifestyle throughout the length and breadth of space. Oh no, these guys want you to be reminded of your RL credit card bills and overdraft everytime you look at some overdressed gimp in a shiny leotard knowing that your capsuleer can't even afford a pair of socks without selling off your fleet of battleships.

It'd be a decent comedy routine if it wasn't so tragic.

Evil: Profoundly immoral and malevolent.
Immoral: Not conforming to accepted standards of morality.
Morality: Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.

Last time I checked, NeX is not sentient and capable of moral decisions. Can one really call a clothing store in a video game about spaceships evil?

I also find it amusingly sad that people whine, get butthurt, hate and waste their time attacking a component of a video game which as silly as a clothes store.

It defines them as hateful people, strung up on the things which don't really matter. When was the last time these posters said something positive?