Warfare & Tactics

Hi all,

I have been a part of a new corp for about a week now, which was created about a week ago and currently, we have 2 wars going.

I have left the corp now (24hr stasis period remaining) because I cant play the game due to station campers. I feel that the 2mil per week or whatever war dec charge for corps isnt enough. I think that the war dec cost should be in relation to how new the corp is as well as member count for the corp being decced against.

The same thing happened in a corp that I was in on my alt, which I took a break from EVE because it frustrated me so much (as well as me forgetting that I could just leave :D)

But seriously, its too hard on new players/corps because of this

The newness of a corp would be exploited in a heartbeat, so, no, it's not a valid fix. Whether you agree/disagree, like/dislike it, new corps are often picked solely for their newness, as well as the overall "age" of the members (how long the character has been around.)

If the 'deccing corp has any smarts, they will have already reconned your corp to figure out where you hang out, what sort of ships you fly, active times, etc. While it sucks, your best bet is generally to not undock. Log in to make sure your training is progressing, but otherwise, find something else to do. If possible, set up a jump clone a decent bit away and do your missioning/mining/whatever there.

There's also the possibility you and your corp could use it as a learning opportunity for PvP. Never know, you might like it.

Simple response:

- Create chat channel with all your corpmates
- All join that chat channel
- All leave corp (except at least one alt of your CEO to kepe the corp open), and communicate with the chat channel

When the war deccers get bored, you can rejoin your corp.

Forum tears best tears.

Station camps are trivial to avoid anyway, especially after the session timer change. Create instaundock bookmarks, and if they fail just redock.

And if you have no idea what the above was, it shows why you were in the wrong corp. EVE is a complex game without a proper manual. You can't learn it in a corp made all of new players, join some established corp first. Preferably one with some established PVP component. Highsec pure PVE corps are full of idiots who think they know everything there is to know about the game, based on hearsay and the one time they jumped into Tama and died.

FIGHT BACK!

Take cheap disposable frigates and cruisers and whelp yourself at your enemies!
Fly ships that are cheaper then their drones, and kill said drones!


Or just join the dec shield coalition..

Depends on how you fight back. Shooting them on station is useless. Gates are slightly better, belts are best. Even with lots of ewar, low SP chars won't have the dps to break those tanks before they can deagress and redock/jump out.

The problem with those small corps made 100% of new players is that they lack the experience and organization to properly pull off the kind of trap needed to actually hurt the wardec corp.

Tell your useless CEo to join DecShield Alliance (ticker is DEKT if I recall). The alliance will accept your corp then in 24hrs your corp will be booted from the alliance, and 24h later the war will drop. Its a free service. If they spend another 2M ISk, just repeat ad nauseum.

Also, you probably have a spy inserted by the wardeccers, so your CEO should put a freeze on recruitment.

New corps can survive war decs, if they have decent organisation and leadership. I'm guessing your corp doesnt.

The corps that get picked on for war decs normally have a lot in common. A CEO that is a new player himself and just wants start his own corp without any idea what it takes, Spamming local or recruitment chat drawing attention to themselfs trying to get as many members as possible and accepting pretty much anyone.

This isn't always the case, most corps will attract a war dec at some point if they stay in highsec but for new corps they are the best way to get an unwanted dec.

Look for corps have a CEO that knows what he is doing, even if the corp is new a expirenced CEO will help, plus if he has been playing for a while he is more likely to know people that can help you out. If people want to find easy targets alot look in recruiment channels, looking for corps that spam saying they accept anyone. Its easier to get spys in and you can normally assume that the players they have will be easy targets.

War dec's help get rid of corps that shouldnt be around in the first place, if you survive war decs the members and corp come out better for it in general. Plus the players that leave when things get hard are the players you dont want in your corp in the first place (I once got thanked by a CEO for showing him who in his corp was dead weight and who was loyal to the corp)

Fight back in cheap ships, dont smack and dont cry in local. Your learn more for next time round even if you get your arse handed to you and the war deccers will have more respect for you than if you docked up and cryed or quit corp. Alot of war deccers are nice guys and will even help you out after a fight letting you know where you went wrong.

CCP should probably take a look at the cost of war-deccing and have it scale a bit to account for inflation (especially recently).

With that said, there's plenty of options available during a war-dec that can make things more interesting. Heck why not use it as an opportunity to learn a bit of PvP, fleet tactics, and working as a team. There's nothing like overcoming a little adversity to help a corp gel. Just make sure you do your research, and maybe even enlist the help of a couple friends.