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Shared station vault : hastens inter pilot coopertaion.
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Sir Dragon
Einherjar Yggdrasils
#1 - 2015-08-12 00:55:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Dragon
Can we let pilots
allow other pilots
to access a shared
station vault ?

Now , we have Station Container , Station Vault Container , and Station Warehouse Container . . .

I forsee that this could help hasten cross corporation cooperation , and not just corporations could benefit from this new feature . . . alliances and pilots as well.

There is a certain haste that can be gained from this that , as is , could only be expressed as a long gauntlet of mouse clicks and pilot-rendezvous to apply a trade between pilots . . . so no longer would we have to have two people present at a location to achieve a trade , for instance.

There would be one owner that would permit other pilots access; it is not more complicated than that.
Any pilot can be permitted / given access by the "one owner".
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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#2 - 2015-08-12 06:00:15 UTC
I believe what you're referring to called a corp bay...

Or if its not its a crazy new form of coorporation where people wont just steal everything not nailed to the floorboards

Sorry Welded to the bulkheads, SPACESHIP metaphors frenzy spaceships...
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#3 - 2015-08-12 13:58:55 UTC
FireFrenzy wrote:
I believe what you're referring to called a corp bay...

Or if its not its a crazy new form of coorporation where people wont just steal everything not nailed to the floorboards

Sorry Welded to the bulkheads, SPACESHIP metaphors frenzy spaceships...

This ^^^^
For your corp set up one of bays and give everyone in the corp access rights to it and your problem is almost solved. Well excpet for the thief FireFrenzy mentions.

I am not sure how any of this may or may not work in an alliance, the last time I was in an alliance was so long back it is a faded memory when it comes to these types of details so I will not comment.
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#4 - 2015-08-12 15:04:02 UTC
OP seems to be asking, specifically, for corp hangars that can be opened to non-corp members.

I vote NO because if a group of players want the features of a corp hangar to use between each other, form a corp together. There's already a lot of 1 man corps in EVE, and otherwise small corps that refuse to merge with each other. Everyone wants to be their own CEO. Cool and great, but then you don't get the convenience of all the corp features.

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Sir Dragon
Einherjar Yggdrasils
#5 - 2015-08-14 06:18:38 UTC
No idea where you all got corporation hanger from this.

A container that can be accessed between pilots would dramatically hasten up an array of pilot interactions.
Cross corporation cooperation for one.

It could be looked as one step up from what we already have :
Transport Ships have fleet cargo holds.
This idea is saying "hey lets have fleet hanger in station" , yet make a little more perminent than that : an actual container. 
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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-08-14 06:59:54 UTC
You seem to be too trusting...

If you can't predict who in your corp will be the next thief, why would you give open access to people beyond that for even more paranoia fun. Worth noting good corps don't even give rights to the masses to start with. they at least want you to put some work into it. Be the go to guy, do lots of extra stuff for the corp, get that level of trust. Then....you can rob them blind.



How will rights be determined? I have been in alliances where I could care less if I could trust the corp next door over about as far as I could comfortably spit out a rat. thing is...that was a minor issue. they robbed that corp blind no skin off my nose. That's that corps' issue. This....all the ops asset in a public container, I'd awox a CEO for even considering this.


take away really is.....who the hell would use this? Well besides you. And being nice I will say I envy your childlike innocent faith in people in some way. But then the jaded part of me says to me sthu...that's what got you burned in the past lol.

If I was mean I'd say doing the above to get trusted too much work for you and you just want to skip the foreplay and hit the assets day 1 directly.


This kind of why I think firefrenzy mentioned corpbay. It offsets a lot of this. Sure a guy can be a thief still ...but all he stole is say ecm mods for falcons to change out jams, sr to lr weapons, etc. that the thief went for this low grade robbing...actually a benefit. you found the really horribly bad player at infiltrating. Probably for little isk all in all.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#7 - 2015-08-14 07:51:24 UTC
I was going to post this as an individual thought - this area sort of fits the location though.

A few months back, I was part of an Alliance and moved through a few corporations. The access and other task that allow players to sort of work together always took fighting tooth and nail. I know CCP is in the process of changing the way corporations function.

What I am wondering is would it not be better to tear the whole thing down from the Allaince level and rebuild it where Corporations replace alliances and then we add Divisions (replaces the current role of Corporations)

Due to my history with corporations and alliances, I have created my own corporation, so I can be my own dictator and not deal with the drama. Yet, I feel the pain of not having a larger group to play with.

I would love to changes done that allows a corp like mine to "merge" and become a different corp (formally Allaince) division.

Most of this idea is just name changing the current stuff, with some extra functions added in.
The former corps (now divisions) would retain their individuality, with additional social aspect of a larger group and adding the ability for them to share their hangers as they wish.

Also allows Corporations (formerly Alliances) to appoint different members to new roles from different areas through the management system.

Idea needs work, but it could lead somewhere.

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Sir Dragon
Einherjar Yggdrasils
#8 - 2015-08-15 05:06:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Dragon
I do not know where you are all getting this "corporation" based comparison.

It is a station warehouse or vault that the owner can give other pilots temporary or permanent access rights.
The result will expidiate various cross pilots trading / cooperation.
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Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#9 - 2015-08-15 09:29:43 UTC
Anchor a secure container somewhere, share the bookmark and password. These things will expire if unused for 30 days.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Secure_containers
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#10 - 2015-08-15 12:58:37 UTC
Sir Dragon wrote:
No idea where you all got corporation hanger from this.

A container that can be accessed between pilots would dramatically hasten up an array of pilot interactions.
Cross corporation cooperation for one.

It could be looked as one step up from what we already have :
Transport Ships have fleet cargo holds.
This idea is saying "hey lets have fleet hanger in station" , yet make a little more perminent than that : an actual container.


Sir Dragon wrote:
I do not know where you are all getting this "corporation" based comparison.

It is a station warehouse or vault that the owner can give other pilots temporary or permanent access rights.
The result will expidiate various cross pilots trading / cooperation.


We all got the idea because a corp hanger / bay whatever you want to call them in an NPC station fills this role perfectly and the best part is nothing new needs to be added to the game.

After thinking on this for a while I say no to alliance wide access to these types of things. Want to share within an alliance do as mentioned above, anchor a can and share access code.
Sir Dragon
Einherjar Yggdrasils
#11 - 2015-08-28 13:32:44 UTC
Well , HURRAH , for the technology already exists.

Thus it will be even easier to share container access between docked pilots (not in same corp) .

Thanks for the responses. 
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