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WTF Fleet warp changes?

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Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-08-27 14:31:22 UTC
Okay so I was just told about the potential fleet warp changes that CCP are considering.

Fleet Commanders will only be able to warp members to celestial objects, things that members can already warp to on their own? So this means FCs wont be able to fleet warp to a bookmark to another person in fleet.

ARE CCP HELL BENT ON RUINING FLEET VS FLEET ACTION

JESUS CHRIST.

MOST PEOPLE GOT IN TO THIS GAME AFTER WATCHING HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BRAWL TOGETHER ON ONE GRID.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-27 14:47:20 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:


MOST PEOPLE GOT IN TO THIS GAME AFTER WATCHING HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BRAWL TOGETHER ON ONE GRID.


Sources?
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-08-27 14:54:01 UTC
The way I understood it, only bookmarks would be exempt. Celestials and other fleet members would still be viable warp-ins.
Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-08-27 15:02:49 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
The way I understood it, only bookmarks would be exempt. Celestials and other fleet members would still be viable warp-ins.


What is the purpose of CCP doing this? It doesnt add anything to the game apart from making the FC job harder
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
#5 - 2015-08-27 15:09:51 UTC
Before this goes places again. You will be able to broadcast any warp destination, including your personal bookmarks. For new bookmarks there will be a small delay before you can broadcast them. So the big change is that your fleet members have to listen and click the warp button themselfs.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-27 15:13:12 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
The way I understood it, only bookmarks would be exempt. Celestials and other fleet members would still be viable warp-ins.


What is the purpose of CCP doing this? It doesnt add anything to the game apart from making the FC job harder


The idea is they want to have other player be more involved in fleet by warping themself or creating warpin points with their own ship with probe > warp > be warped to combo.

I'm not saying it will work tho.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#7 - 2015-08-27 15:15:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
There is probably some fringe thought process that believes this is a necessary step in killing close range blob warfare. There might even be some credibility to the thought, but not if this is the only step taken.

If the only desired effect was to give individuals more buttons to press, then that is a fairly bad design choice.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-08-27 15:15:41 UTC
Lim Hiaret wrote:
Before this goes places again. You will be able to broadcast any warp destination, including your personal bookmarks. For new bookmarks there will be a small delay before you can broadcast them. So the big change is that your fleet members have to listen and click the warp button themselfs.



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The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2015-08-27 15:26:18 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
Okay so I was just told about the potential fleet warp changes that CCP are considering.



Its sad you just heard about something that was proposed and discussed a while ago. Maybe a little more time reading the forums, and a little less time leaning on the caps lock?

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#10 - 2015-08-27 15:27:02 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:

Pilot your own ship? How DARE you CCP!Evil


It isn't the piloting your own ship that is the problem, it's the delay when adding corp bookmarks.

The change is basically a giant middle finger to anyone in WHs
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#11 - 2015-08-27 15:27:41 UTC
Slight nerf to coalition fleets? Only thing I could come up with that hasn't been brought up.

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-27 15:34:00 UTC
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Doomheim
#13 - 2015-08-27 15:36:13 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-08-27 15:47:03 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:

What is the purpose of CCP doing this? It doesnt add anything to the game apart from making the FC job harder


It forces the players to be more attentive and breaks up the blob. FC organizes WC which in turn commands SC. Wing warp, main advantage is when warping to engagement so all land on time? How does losing fleet warp to burning interceptors detract from your gameplay?

To quote Lfod Shi

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Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-08-27 15:54:50 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:

What is the purpose of CCP doing this? It doesnt add anything to the game apart from making the FC job harder


It forces the players to be more attentive and breaks up the blob. FC organizes WC which in turn commands SC. Wing warp, main advantage is when warping to engagement so all land on time? How does losing fleet warp to burning interceptors detract from your gameplay?


>breaks up the blob.

Anything that does this and stops large fleet fights is bad for eve.
Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-08-27 15:56:09 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Slight nerf to coalition fleets? Only thing I could come up with that hasn't been brought up.


Massive nerf to every fleet larger than 10
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#17 - 2015-08-27 16:00:31 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:

What is the purpose of CCP doing this? It doesnt add anything to the game apart from making the FC job harder


It forces the players to be more attentive and breaks up the blob. FC organizes WC which in turn commands SC. Wing warp, main advantage is when warping to engagement so all land on time? How does losing fleet warp to burning interceptors detract from your gameplay?


>breaks up the blob.

Anything that does this and stops large fleet fights is bad for eve.


+1 Especially for a game that spent 12 years advertising "huge fleet battles". It's like CCP got over run by some small gang warfare type lovers, because everything they are doing (like fozzie sov aka FW for null) is a total repudiation of the kind of gameplay that drew many of us in.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#18 - 2015-08-27 16:06:01 UTC
God forbid people will actually have to do some work in fleets now, instead of just pressing F1. Thank you CCP.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#19 - 2015-08-27 16:06:18 UTC
gods i get to be an old man again yay!!!

*hobbles in and leans on the chair*

So.. you are wining why? Because you have to actually listen to the FC and right click on something and warp to it? OOOH scary.

'This will kill wormholes" *blinks* you all are idiots. seriously.

When wormholes started do you know what we used to do? We used to scan stuff, have the prober fly tot he area and have the fleet warp to the damn prober. Why? Because there were no Corp Bookmarks. You had to copy them. So it was easier to just warp to the damn prober.

CCP adds corp bookmarks and sundunnly all you whipper snapers get lazy.

Having a scout to warp to has bene done in eve for ever. even before they totally redid scanning in Apocacryto.

You will adapt.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#20 - 2015-08-27 16:22:05 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
gods i get to be an old man again yay!!!

*hobbles in and leans on the chair*

So.. you are wining why? Because you have to actually listen to the FC and right click on something and warp to it? OOOH scary.

'This will kill wormholes" *blinks* you all are idiots. seriously.

When wormholes started do you know what we used to do? We used to scan stuff, have the prober fly tot he area and have the fleet warp to the damn prober. Why? Because there were no Corp Bookmarks. You had to copy them. So it was easier to just warp to the damn prober.

CCP adds corp bookmarks and sundunnly all you whipper snapers get lazy.

Having a scout to warp to has bene done in eve for ever. even before they totally redid scanning in Apocacryto.

You will adapt.

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We also used to have to do maths to figure out how far missiles would fly. Does that mean no one can complain about missies, just because they are better than they used to be?

I'm simply stating this is an attempt to break up blobs/invigorate null and will have very real consequences for WHs.

I'm not saying it is a bad idea, but asking CCP to have corp BMs propagate out within a few ticks before implementing it is far from an unreasonable request.
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