Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I like it, but it sounds like interceptors would still do the same job more effectively. Cost is rarely a deterrent for something so safe.

Yes, interceptors would still be more effective. However, if you're a newbro, you're probably not trained into interceptors yet, much less can afford one.

The SP req for these shuttles would be much lower compared to interceptors. Like I said before, they would also be much cheaper, making them a more viable option for New Eden's newbros.

I'm not sure how I feel about that align time. I know I personally would rarely if ever use one of those because fast-locking warp disruptors are far more common in my experience than warp disrupt bubbles, but I mostly shuttle through lowsec anyway, and use an interceptor for nullsec.

I made this a while back: New Tech III ship: Strategic Shuttle
Some people told me it should be tech 2 or faction instead.

Here's an idea: the tech 2 shuttle could have fittings. It could have align similar to an interceptor, bubble immunity, 4-5 total slots, very low fitting room and cargohold, and a skill cost lower than an interceptor. Its purpose would be a cheaper and lower skill interceptor for those who only wish to move around in it, might be slightly faster aligning than an interceptor, but without stepping on interceptor toes because it doesn't perform many of the other functions and has slower warp speed (6 AU/s instead of 8).



I think CCP should do away with bubble immunity and give bubbles a specific warp disrupt strength, something low. Warp stabbed ships shouldn't be caught in bubbles, the trick to catching them should be using multiple insta-locking ships. Interceptors could be given -1 bubble disrupt strength, making +1 disrupt bubbles useless against them. Bubbles should be for capturing fleets, not for capturing mega-stabbed bigships because you're too lazy to get enough points on it. Also there should be large warp disruptors/scramblers for fitting on cruisers or battleships for more disrupt strength at the cost of longer locking time.

Yes, bubble immune, which is why align time would be their weakness. If they align as fast as a regular shuttle, that makes them far to overpowered.

Implemented as ceptors, and they are much faster in warp.

No need seen.

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I like the idea of fast T2 shuttles with extra bonuses. The price point should be significant to not make T1 shuttles even more irrelevant.

But I assume this is a pretext to nerf bubble immunity of interceptors and that is something I do not support. The only problem is the combination of entosis links and bubble immunity at a very low price point and low skill requirements. I think bubble immunity is somehow required to fulfill the interceptor role.

I honestly don't see a convincing argument for T2 shuttles.

Not supported.

Awsome

Get out, please. Take inty's bubble immunity with you, while you are at it.

Immunity to bubbles seems a bit extreme, I'd rather go with something like this:

T2 Shuttle (2,000,000 ISK base value)

100m3 Cargo
+50% armour, shields & hull
+20% warp speed
+40% signature radius
+50% inertia modifier
1 high slot for cloaking device (cannot use covert-ops) - no turret/launcher hardpoints
1 low slot for something like a WCS/Expander