EVE General Discussion

I've played a long time and as of recently found PVP in the game draining.

Is it me having an meriod, or has PVP become regimented and too predictable?

I find the PvP itself to be exciting. But as you said, somewhat predictable the larger the fleets get.

The "draining" part for me is the work required to do it. I can get in cheap ships and die lots, which in itself eventually gets dull, or invest in a strong ship that would then mean extended period of time of non pvp, or a shorter boring grind to replace it. When I first started trying pvp and went on roams, the part that would get me is the time it could take to get a fight. Sitting on a gate hoping to catch somebody was worse than mining, or it was scouts say run. Lots of time for just a short spurt of excitement.

In another thread I discussed it. If a pvp life was more engaging and rewarding, it would increase density in pvp space which would boost the quality of small gang pvp.

Large fleet pvp, that is a whole different and complex bag of worms. There have been many ideas floated around over the years to make larger the fleet, the more complex and engaging the experience but nothing implemented.

That is why I love exploration actually. I love going into somebodys sov space and taking their sites, evading when they try to find me, etc.

I can relate to your view.

In the Stain region which is NPC null, PVP seems to be about tricking or waiting for your mark to be in a position where you can outnumber or out DPS them, the predictability has become a little boring for me. I rarely see PVP where both sides have equal ship types and numbers where the battle is about the skill of a fleet commander managing the battle.

Back in the day I've Fc'd a few bigger fights 20v20 where you had to take some time to call ECM, and repping targets which I found very exciting.

I suppose it depends on your perspective.

I agree with those that say the hunt/fishing is the fun part. Especially when your trap/plan works flawlessly. Its not like im fooling AI that follows a script or "behavior". Im hunting people who are quite unpredictable. Sometimes its easy, other times they counter my trap, with a better trap.

Quick example. I was in my sleip, and a vaga was trying to warp in at range. I bounced planets a few times to see his typical warp-in distance (50km). So on the last bounce, i warped at 50, he landed ontop of me, and gg for vagabond.

I also enjoy the micromanaging of the fights and fighting tunnelvision. I think because of this, EVE has allowed me to stay collected IRL when things start going **** up.

Personally I hate fishing, I understand the appeal but find crafting (painting, drawing that sort of thing) to be much more to my taste.
Same parallel though in that the process around the actual act is as (and sometimes more) enjoyable than the act itself for me.

Sounds like u had a good adventure, you knew the odds were against you but you still went in. good content.

Stop flying what you can't afford to loose. Alternatively, GIT GUD and stop losing your ships to silly stuff like shooting the gate. I mean seriously my rate of ship procurement as I make money in FW outstrips my ship losses that I had to make 2 billion ISK reshipping points in several regions so I can roam even farther if I wanted to.

Also partial WTS 80'ish condor and/or atron hulls.

If you are not part of a fleet PvP in EVE is a challange, time consuming and you have to expect painful losses. FW is a good choice to PvP in smaller, not so expensive ships. You will have some fun PvP without losing too much. But however you turn it: you'll need ISK and replacing the losses is the bottleneck here. If you don't have a hauler alt or corp logistics the annoying part of PvP is to run to the next trading hub again and again. When you have more experience and routine, when ISK isn't really an issue anymore you'll start to fly more expensive setups. Hunting has different levels. You can choose a null-sec system like PF- or F7C, place some drag bubbles and eat small fish or you roam for easy to kill carebears or you roam to fight harder targets. If you want to engage smaller gate camps it's most of the time a PvP lottery. Running blindly into something is always a bad idea. There might be backup and logistics will make it nearly impossible to fight them solo expect you have one more alt. Without an alt it's some kind of random suicide to roam solo in a normal Cruiser or Battlecruiser. Especially in FW warzones or areas where pirate groups dominate. There's always a bigger fish around. I prefer hunting in a Stratios. Great tank, DPS, cloaky and sneaky. But also here you have to expect to face EVIL-Online anytime. Cyno up. Blops. Done. But all this is what makes EVE special. EVE is a group game. If you can't or you don't want to fly with people, live with the much harder consequences and don't make the mistake to blame CCP or other players for it.