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Drone orbit speed

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Aeneas Escher
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-08-21 17:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Aeneas Escher
Hey.

What exactly is drone orbit speed?
It can't be just the transversal velocity, can it? If this was the case and I'm doing the math correctly drones would always be in their tracking speed
[given that tracking speed = 2*pi / 360 * arctan (transversal velocity / activation range)]
wether they are orbiting frigs, cruisers, bs or whatever. But I guess there HAS to be a difference depening on the speed of the ship they are oprbiting.
I just stumbled over this when I was trying to calculate the hit-chance for drones.

Could someone help me? O.o

Thanks
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-08-21 18:44:56 UTC
it's their speed when they are orbiting

to expand: drones have 2 speeds. MWD speed when approaching target and then orbit speed when they get within optimals.
Aeneas Escher
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-08-22 04:15:53 UTC
Well, sounds kinda plausible ^^ Thanks.
But still - orbit speed isn't measured relative to the orbited ship, but absolute?
So, let's say a drone has an orbit speed of 400 m/s and is orbiting a ship that is flying 200 m/s - then the transversal speed can be 200 m/s (400 - 200 m/s when they are flying in the same direction) or 600 m/s (200 + 400 m/s when flying in opposite direction)?

In which case my next quastion would be what happens when the speed of the orbited ship is higher than orbiting speed. Will the MWD-speed be partly "added" to the orbiting speed?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#4 - 2015-08-22 04:44:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
all velocities are absolute not relative to anything.

Aeneas Escher wrote:

In which case my next quastion would be what happens when the speed of the orbited ship is higher than orbiting speed. Will the MWD-speed be partly "added" to the orbiting speed?

drones will enable mwd till they catch up, then disable it, fall back and enable it again.

thats why you can mitigate a lot of drone damage as MWDing frigate even if your MWD speed is lower than the drone MWD speed

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Arla Sarain
#5 - 2015-08-22 10:04:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Aeneas Escher wrote:
Well, sounds kinda plausible ^^ Thanks.
But still - orbit speed isn't measured relative to the orbited ship, but absolute?
So, let's say a drone has an orbit speed of 400 m/s and is orbiting a ship that is flying 200 m/s - then the transversal speed can be 200 m/s (400 - 200 m/s when they are flying in the same direction) or 600 m/s (200 + 400 m/s when flying in opposite direction)?

In which case my next quastion would be what happens when the speed of the orbited ship is higher than orbiting speed. Will the MWD-speed be partly "added" to the orbiting speed?

Absolute orbit speed would be 400.

Relative would be as you say, subject to vector math. Which would also be actual transversal and/ord angular velocity.


No to the last bit. The above reply explains correctly that drones will be in a state of "limbo" (I guess?) and will frequently overshoot/undershoot.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-22 14:05:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
The initial unskilled speeds for a Warrior II are

Orbit Velocity: 900 m/s
MWD Velocity: 5040 m/s

Once launched from your drone-bay those values will increase due to Skills, Fitted Modules & Hull Bonus (if any)

The target ship has to travel faster than 900 m/s for your drone to repeatedly switch between orbit mode and pursuit mode, in most circumstances this won't happen.