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problem with eve is dumdum pvpers who cant take a hint

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#1 - 2015-08-22 03:12:33 UTC
i dont pvp

you cant make me

you can camp my system all day ill just log in characters elsewhere

your qqing because no one wants to "fight" you is the problem with the game of your own making

solution is simple...go find someone else who wants to be your pvp friend because you arent going to get any sideways hugs fromme
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2015-08-22 03:15:21 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me
Do you log in?
In that case, you're PvP:ing — you can't really play EVE without doing so.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#3 - 2015-08-22 03:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: metalravenous
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me
Do you log in?
In that case, you're PvP:ing — you can't really play EVE without doing so.



PI

I also declared all my threads no tippia zones a long time ago, ccp please remove offending post
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#4 - 2015-08-22 03:19:23 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me

you can camp my system all day ill just log in characters elsewhere

your qqing because no one wants to "fight" you is the problem with the game of your own making

solution is simple...go find someone else who wants to be your pvp friend because you arent going to get any sideways hugs fromme


So.... Risk adverse player complaining about people playing the way they want to play? Just don't undock and don't complain about people talking in local on the forums.

This is a signature.

It has a 25m signature.

No it's not a cosmic signature.

Probably.

Btw my corp's recruiting.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2015-08-22 03:19:53 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
PI

I also declared all my threads no tippia zones a long time ago, ccp please remove offending post

You mean the OP? They don't really remove posts, but I'm sure they'll come and lock your rant in short order.

Meanwhile, why not answer the question? Do you log in? Because if you do, it's actually you who's making you PvP — not someone else.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#6 - 2015-08-22 03:21:12 UTC
Bobb Bobbington wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me

you can camp my system all day ill just log in characters elsewhere

your qqing because no one wants to "fight" you is the problem with the game of your own making

solution is simple...go find someone else who wants to be your pvp friend because you arent going to get any sideways hugs fromme


So.... Risk adverse player complaining about people playing the way they want to play? Just don't undock and don't complain about people talking in local on the forums.


im pointing out people complaining about lack of pvp

im not complaining about not pvping

if you want groceries go to the supermarket...dont come to a paint store
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#7 - 2015-08-22 03:22:00 UTC  |  Edited by: metalravenous
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
PI

I also declared all my threads no tippia zones a long time ago, ccp please remove offending post

You mean the OP? They don't really remove posts, but I'm sure they'll come and lock your rant in short order.

Meanwhile, why not answer the question? Do you log in? Because if you do, it's actually you who's making you PvP — not someone else.



strawman detected....

PI = no pvp

would you like all answers to be yes and no?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#8 - 2015-08-22 03:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
metalravenous wrote:
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me
Do you log in?
In that case, you're PvP:ing — you can't really play EVE without doing so.



PI

I also declared all my threads no tippia zones a long time ago, ccp please remove offending post



If I can foil your plans in some capacity, it's pvp.

If you're doing your best to avoid getting screwed, that's pvp as well.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#9 - 2015-08-22 03:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
OP, remember to make jump clones so they have to keep crossing many systems each day to find you.

PVP - Player versus Player
Means the two are working against each other.

When it is a paper thin T1 industrial or a miner getting ganked, that is just a PK or a Player Kill.
The weak game design served up a victim and you picked an easy target to kick.
There is no fight to be proud of there.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2015-08-22 03:24:42 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
strawman detected....

PI = no pvp

PI is PvP. Mainly because it exists in EVE, and everything in EVE is PvP.

Oh, and no, it's not a strawman since it's not attributing an argument to you — it's just a matter of fact.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#11 - 2015-08-22 03:27:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
strawman detected....

PI = no pvp

PI is PvP. Mainly because it exists in EVE, and everything in EVE is PvP.

Oh, and no, it's not a strawman since it's not attributing an argument to you — it's just a matter of fact.


because you say everything is pvp it is pvp...circular logic now.....you obv must be right
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-22 03:27:37 UTC
competition on a planet. ressource spots on planets degrade depending on how much they are used

undocking to deploy command centres

undocking to pick up ressources

pewpew over customs offices.

market pvp in the customs office gantry market

market pvp in the PI goods market
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#13 - 2015-08-22 03:29:29 UTC
Let's be honest though, PI would be a lot more humorous if Dust mercs could be contracted to destroy your neighbors facilities.

Just saying.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#14 - 2015-08-22 03:30:29 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me
Do you log in?
In that case, you're PvP:ing — you can't really play EVE without doing so.



PI

I also declared all my threads no tippia zones a long time ago, ccp please remove offending post



If I can foil your plans in some capacity, it's pvp.

If you're doing your best to avoid getting screwed, that's pvp as well.


right now i have to use the bathroom, op success you are keeping me full of crap
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#15 - 2015-08-22 03:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
metalravenous wrote:
because you say everything is pvp it is pvp...circular logic now.....you obv must be right

Logic isn't your strong suit. You guessed wrong about what a strawman is, and now you misunderstand what makes something circular.

It's a the very model of a standard, straight syllogism: all A is B, x is an A, therefore x is a B.

Since the premises are true, so is the conclusion. So yeah, it's pretty obvious that I'm right.
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#16 - 2015-08-22 03:33:37 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Bobb Bobbington wrote:


So.... Risk adverse player complaining about people playing the way they want to play? Just don't undock and don't complain about people talking in local on the forums.


im pointing out people complaining about lack of pvp

im not complaining about not pvping

if you want groceries go to the supermarket...dont come to a paint store


Lol, k, eve forums have finally achieved complaint-ception, where people complain about people complaining, and other people complain about him complaining about other people complaining, which makes him complain about them complaining about him complaining about people in local complaining.

Sounds legit from my end.

This is a signature.

It has a 25m signature.

No it's not a cosmic signature.

Probably.

Btw my corp's recruiting.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#17 - 2015-08-22 03:34:42 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Let's be honest though, PI would be a lot more humorous if Dust mercs could be contracted to destroy your neighbors facilities.
Just saying.
As long as they need us to transport them between stations and planets and we can jettison them into space. TwistedBlink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#18 - 2015-08-22 03:34:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
i dont pvp

you cant make me
Do you log in?
In that case, you're PvP:ing — you can't really play EVE without doing so.


also you are being facetious because you also know im referring to pew pew which so really the troll here is just your ego...which is why this is a tippia free zone
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#19 - 2015-08-22 03:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: metalravenous
Tippia wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
because you say everything is pvp it is pvp...circular logic now.....you obv must be right

Logic isn't your strong suit. You guessed wrong about what a strawman is, and now you misunderstand what makes something circular.

It's a the very model of a standard, straight syllogism: all A is B, x is an A, therefore x is a B.

Since the premises are true, so is the conclusion. So yeah, it's pretty obvious that I'm right.



you are right because you say you are right....ok thats not circular at all....and its not strawman because you say so as well
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2015-08-22 03:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
metalravenous wrote:
also you are being facetious because you also know im referring to pew pew which so really the troll here is just your ego...which is why this is a tippia free zone

If you're talking about combat, say “combat”. Oh, and in that case you're if anything even more wrong since they definitely can make you. It's kind of the exact opposite of how you can't declare anything about who gets to contribute to a thread in an open forum.

metalravenous wrote:
you are right because you say you are right....ok thats not circular at all.
Except that that's not what I'm saying — that's something you're saying, and attributing your incorrect argument to me makes your argument a strawman. See how that works?

I'm right because it's the fundamental design of the game and everything in it, and because basic predicate logic says so:
∀ x ∈ [Activity in EVE] : x ∈ [PvP]
PI ∈ [Activity in EVE]
∴ PI ∈ [PvP]

If you want to argue against that, either disprove the premises (in particular the parts that are defined by the makers of the game) or disprove the entire system of formal logic. If you want to demonstrate circularity, you have to show that the premise(s) are contingent on the conclusion.
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