EVE General Discussion

Ever felt that something seemed out of place ?
I sure felt it when I was reading this...


... Player ships are safely impounded and saved, along with all their fittings and rigs. We considered destroyed the active ship as well, but that would only lead to further hassle where players would always have to remember to exit their active ship when docking at one of those new structures. ...

... All players that were docked in the structure are podded. Mrs. Madeleine Truffade loses her implants and is moved to her medical home station, Duripant VII – Moon 6 – Federal Navy Academy. All items located in personal hangars are saved for their owners to claim. This includes Madeleine’s Megathron. A notification will be sent to Madeleine explaining what happened. ...


I predict people will be logging of in space - cause WHY risk the implants ?
What is the magical difference between losing a ship or implants, that course ships to need protection, BUT not implants ?

If we are not getting that everything dies anyway - can we at LEAST have some consistency

+1

" only lead to further hassle where players would always "

I sure will be logging of in Space - cause I actually have a REAL LIFE too, and I might not get to login every day or week sometimes

Damn, You've got some anger issues!

Just breath... Deep breaths... Count to 10...

I wouldn't worry, your corp is in no danger of owning one anyway.

Personally I believe they are being far too generous as it is. Transport to nearest NPC stations? Why even bother having it destructable is the invincible npc hauling service will get you out of null. Might as well add a self-destruct button in the station interface, since thats a far easier way than ever bothering to move anything

"I don't always blow up on the forums... but when I do, I go ballz deep."

Is that how it is going to work? That seems like it would make moving very simple!

Can I have Citadels tomorrow? I need to move some stuff =x

I'm pretty sure I will follow through with my plan of living in space with a Hel as the core of my gang.

For a gewnie, there isn't much reason to burden yourself with more than one doctrine ship per character. Of course, I would have some extra support ships (non doctrine) for my own use in the Hel, but that's it.

So then who will be left holding caches of doctrine ships. The answer is the industrialists, aka builders. I think that situation is kind of jacked, when losing the containing structure and incurring a 10% impound fee is the only option when suffering defeat.

The only way I can make sense of this really bad move is by assuming citadels are motivated by something other than a good change to the game. Something like a desire to have new structures first and foremost, followed by a struggle to shoehorn them into the game in the best way possible.

"Best way possible" includes provisions for new ISK sinks, and a dream of constellation-wide conflict which is also at the core of capture nodes and their placement over a constellation.

I get the logic, but I don't agree with it.

In my initial assessment of proposed citadel mechanics and destructible stations, back in May, I figured it would be a huge nerf to industrialist behavior (to put assets at risk in a way that would punish them for having inventory). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5743945#post5743945

I went on to say in that post:

And it seems the plan is to punish defeat with time, displacement, and ISK.

I think just one of those three would be enough risk to the industrialist, and absolutely not all three.

One last thought on the matter.

If the punishment for losing a citadel will be directly proportional to its distance from an NPC station, that means sov null will be more and more dangerous to hold the further out you go.

In the colored chart showing the distance of systems from NPC stations, green means it is damn near wormhole space in terms of risk.

But that doesn't make sense either, because most of that green is already ****. Those regions are seeing no significant mechanic changes other than the ridiculous drawback of getting your stuff moved halfway to jita for a 10% fee.

It can go to roleplaying groups, I guess.

That's the point though. Why logging off in a station at all, ever?

Edit: ...actually, screw that. I can think of a few scenarios involving hellcamps.