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flakeys
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-08-15 08:30:53 UTC



The posts comparing us every day on these forums with the WoW player starts to look as an inferiority complex .... Shocked

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-08-15 09:10:02 UTC
ISD Buldath wrote:
I am still here because of this community.


And because I may be slightly masochistic


I noticed a new ISD crew has formed. What happened to the previous crew? Did they get fired or go on strike?
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-08-15 11:00:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
OP have a got a chance to read old forums? You could find some really good stuff there
In the meantime, after reading trading hubs local i got the only one feeling - rage quit and give all my stuff to the first stranger asked for it.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-08-15 11:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Tiddle Jr wrote:
..rage quit and give all my stuff the the first strsnger asked for it.


What a nice coincidence, I just happen to be a random stranger looking for stuff Cool

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-08-15 13:22:50 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Confirming that the crowds that inhabit F2P games make even the worst GD troll look like Nuclear Physicists.




I've seen a World of Tanks troll who didn't break the rules but seriously irritated people. Seemingly the same thing that happened between me and tippia, but it was a lot easier to deal with. I also got him/her to half admit to what they were doing.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#26 - 2015-08-15 15:39:55 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Starbuck05 wrote:
So yea, il take the eve community erry day
Actually I think some of the craziest **** has happened in/with EVE. Remember like that incident that caused a CSM to resign a few years back Smile I think those other communities are small potatoes to the potential destruction the EVE community can do on others and onto themselves. But others just try too hard perhaps, while true vileness takes a level of skill, aptitude and timing. Plus, if you screw up here really bad, you have more to lose compared to dota's and f2p's, so I think that also keeps things in check around here to some degree.




That might be , but i still believe the avarage Space Joe isnt in a position to get destroyed ( emotionaly ) every day in EvE compared to DoTA for example .


In DoTA i used to play atleast a game daily ( im sure others might say the same ) and there was not 1 .. not 1 .. game without someone cursing another and calling him noob for either good or bad reasons .

In EvE however , most people you talk to ( in game ) are cool and helpfull , sure you find a troll or a "badass elite "now and again but still doesn't compare

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-08-15 16:00:44 UTC
This might be a bit off topic but the original version of Battlestar Galactica was much better than the more recent one.

Anyone who disagrees needs to go back to WoW
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#28 - 2015-08-15 16:20:31 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
..rage quit and give all my stuff the the first strsnger asked for it.


What a nice coincidence, I just happen to be a random stranger looking for stuff Cool


... I know YOU knew better than this Zimmeh...

*hovers marker over Zimmy's name on Christmas List....*

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-08-15 16:23:18 UTC
Elsa is right on.

These forums are much more civil than WOT (Tanks). It goes to show you the difference from the paying players and the free to play environments. I stopped playing WOT for this very reason. Their forums and their live chats are filled with rancid horrible and ,I believe, young players that behave terribly. WOT is not managed well and puts up with this. More paying players should leave WOT so they learn a lesson.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-08-15 16:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Freya Sertan
You guys want a terrible ****** community? Try playing Rift. Between all of the neckbeards hitting on the cheating housewives in-game and the entitled forum denizens on an F2P game is something like toxic waste.

It's where really bad roleplayers go when they get kicked out of Warcraft.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-08-15 16:30:14 UTC
Every thing is relative to a person's experience and on Eve, people are generally nice and helpful. Compared to WOT, it is a health spa. Big smile
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-08-15 19:12:07 UTC
These forums might be more civil but I have never on any other game forum heard so many decent ideas shot down over "server-load" or "dev-time" by armchair computer scientists. As if those things even matter when CCP wants to implement something.

This post brought to you by CCP's alpha forum alt initiative. Playing the eve forums has never come cheaper.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-08-15 20:18:41 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
There are toxic people in all communities, not to mention the perception of who is toxic and who is not is different from person to person.

To say one community is more toxic than another is kinda pointless and not really quantifiable.

MY HEAVENS...

You are a toxic individual aren't you?
Panthe3 Black
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-08-15 20:23:17 UTC
this group is the most smug of all in the gaming world
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2015-08-15 21:34:37 UTC
Mr Mieyli wrote:
These forums might be more civil but I have never on any other game forum heard so many decent ideas shot down over "server-load" or "dev-time" by armchair computer scientists. As if those things even matter when CCP wants to implement something.
The Eve player-base has a large percentage of people who are professionals involved at all levels in relevant vocations such as engineering and IT, when those people give their feedback, they're not exactly armchair computer scientists.

There's a reason that CCP occasionally recruits from their playerbase, sometimes their players are also their peers.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#36 - 2015-08-15 21:54:42 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
*monocles closer*
*puffs cigar*

... mmmmMMMmmmm... do tell of some examples. I would much enjoy this... as would the collective ego of the forums here.


OOOOOOOO... we should make a thread dedicated to the worst of the worst on other forums!

*gets down on knees*
Oh great and mighty ISDs!! I beseech thee!!
What would be the legality of such a thread dedicated to the angstiest of the angsty forums out there?


And then this guy goes and proves the OP wrong with the first reply.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-08-15 22:12:00 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mr Mieyli wrote:
These forums might be more civil but I have never on any other game forum heard so many decent ideas shot down over "server-load" or "dev-time" by armchair computer scientists. As if those things even matter when CCP wants to implement something.
The Eve player-base has a large percentage of people who are professionals involved at all levels in relevant vocations such as engineering and IT, when those people give their feedback, they're not exactly armchair computer scientists.

There's a reason that CCP occasionally recruits from their playerbase, sometimes their players are also their peers.


My point was that when CCP decide something is good for the game they don't seem to care too much about dev-time so why do us players shoot down ideas because :dev-time: ? Anyone wondered how much dev time went into the un-asked-for and broken t3d's?

This post brought to you by CCP's alpha forum alt initiative. Playing the eve forums has never come cheaper.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#38 - 2015-08-15 22:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mr Mieyli wrote:
My point was that when CCP decide something is good for the game they don't seem to care too much about dev-time so why do us players shoot down ideas because :dev-time: ? Anyone wondered how much dev time went into the un-asked-for and broken t3d's?
18 months of dev time wasted by being pretty much solely devoted to the points below is why we get to shoot down ideas because :dev-time:

  • An, extremely controversial at the time, cash store with what, given the greed is good leak, appeared to be very dubious intentions of offering pay to win items.
  • An under delivered, buggy, seedy by the hour hotel room with zero content, that cooked hardware and couldn't be opted out of.
  • Removing the favoured pastime of many, that didn't involve memes, porn, youtube etc; of ship-spinning while waiting out a timer or for a fleet.

    • That 18 months would have been far better spent doing what they've done in the expansions that follow, fixing and upgrading the things that needed doing , hopefully without breaking anything else, and doing so with an actual plan.

    More T3 ships have been wanted by many ever since the introduction of Strategic Cruisers, I wouldn't call that unwanted.

    CCP doesn't always know what's good for the game and they realise that; they value their players opinions and ideas, which is why every major change has huge feedback threads where CCP take note of what is and what is not acceptable to the people that play their game.

    Sometimes they act on it, sometimes they don't; sometimes they go back and tweak it because they failed to pay attention and got it hideously wrong.

    In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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    BrundleMeth
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #39 - 2015-08-15 23:39:26 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
    Daniela Doran wrote:
    I noticed a new ISD crew has formed. What happened to the previous crew? Did they get fired or go on strike?
    I hope fired...

    Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

    CCP doesn't always know what's good for the game and they realise that;
    They what? Heh Heh Heh, sure they do...
    Quote:

    ... they value their players opinions and ideas
    Now you're just being silly, I mean BWAHAHAHAHAHA, c'mon, I can hardly HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
    Webvan
    All Kill No Skill
    #40 - 2015-08-15 23:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
    Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
    Mr Mieyli wrote:
    These forums might be more civil but I have never on any other game forum heard so many decent ideas shot down over "server-load" or "dev-time" by armchair computer scientists. As if those things even matter when CCP wants to implement something.
    The Eve player-base has a large percentage of people who are professionals involved at all levels in relevant vocations such as engineering and IT, when those people give their feedback, they're not exactly armchair computer scientists.

    There's a reason that CCP occasionally recruits from their playerbase, sometimes their players are also their peers.

    Yeah you beat me to that reply. CCP has stated this to be so. Most of us are just a bunch of tech geeks Smile Nerds do the armchair stuff Straight Most people on avg here have real world technology experience, from programming to server management and everything in-between. The only other mmo community I've seen this so strongly in was early UO. I think it has to do with the allure of the sandbox, draws in the creative types and who aren't put off by learning something complicated related to tech as EVE is.

    As for shooting ideas down, 99%, especially posted in GD since the OP's of those threads can't even distinguish between GD and the ideas forum, are essentially really bad ideas. EVE has technical limitations, and considerations of R&D to fund for it, which in some past cases were attempted and seriously failed. Most players just want little improvements to the existing game as well as bug fixes, not stuff that attempts to turn EVE into some other game because the OP's of those threads cant cope with EVE as it is.

    I'm in it for the money

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