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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#141 - 2015-08-14 19:18:49 UTC
Xeno Szenn wrote:
Thank you for the formatting help i know i don't forum well.

How do you have time to forum? Don't you have some overlords butt to kiss? Also hello again you are quickly going from forums are a waste of time to a regular. Just fair warning at this rate you will start checking out every thread Big smile

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#142 - 2015-08-14 21:38:27 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#143 - 2015-08-14 21:42:06 UTC
I like the idea of cap boats in high sec.

It's the cynos I don't like. I think it would make sense if you let them go through gates (or created a restriction so it didn't destroy the distance value of the market).

As for fights, I think it would make the PVE corp more disadvantaged. Imagine those high sec t3 corps with hundreds of players and then imagine them all in caps.

If you had to slow boat them, that would keep them in check.

Of course, it would destroy one more motivator for people to go to low or null...
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#144 - 2015-08-14 21:47:11 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I like the idea of cap boats in high sec.

It's the cynos I don't like. I think it would make sense if you let them go through gates (or created a restriction so it didn't destroy the distance value of the market).

As for fights, I think it would make the PVE corp more disadvantaged. Imagine those high sec t3 corps with hundreds of players and then imagine them all in caps.

If you had to slow boat them, that would keep them in check.

Of course, it would destroy one more motivator for people to go to low or null...


Capitals taking gates is already a thing, bud.

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#145 - 2015-08-15 01:21:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobadder Thworst
Lan Wang wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate


Most of us are senior players... We can fly Caps just fine.

Get ready for insta-dreads supported by fleets of remote-SEBO alts.

I'm sure it'll take a few alts to be able to instalock pods on 4-4, but who ever said greatness was easy?

I bet fighters will be good for 4-4 too. I may still have a carrier somewhere...
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#146 - 2015-08-15 01:22:48 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I like the idea of cap boats in high sec.

It's the cynos I don't like. I think it would make sense if you let them go through gates (or created a restriction so it didn't destroy the distance value of the market).

As for fights, I think it would make the PVE corp more disadvantaged. Imagine those high sec t3 corps with hundreds of players and then imagine them all in caps.

If you had to slow boat them, that would keep them in check.

Of course, it would destroy one more motivator for people to go to low or null...


Capitals taking gates is already a thing, bud.

Next thing you know, they'll be making t3 ships...
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#147 - 2015-08-15 01:53:52 UTC
You can't remote sebo something in siege.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#148 - 2015-08-15 01:54:57 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
You can't remote sebo something in siege.


Ahh, another necessary change! Good catch!
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#149 - 2015-08-15 01:59:51 UTC
Nobody wants remote sensor boosted, remote tracking linked blap dreads.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#150 - 2015-08-15 02:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobadder Thworst
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Nobody wants remote sensor boosted, remote tracking linked blap dreads.


Mostly, I'm just trying to illustrate that the high-sec wardec crowd would probably be able to navigate the addition of dreads as well as anyone.

Their cause is chaos... And I feel certain capitals would greatly facilitate that cause...


I like the idea of an insta-dread... Good or not...
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#151 - 2015-08-15 03:13:37 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate

99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying Blink. Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock.

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#152 - 2015-08-15 03:58:18 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate

99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying Blink. Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock.


Russians are a different set of rules...

I did not intend to characterize them.

But most of the guys I ran with for years would be happy to fly caps in high sec...

To be honest, though, I wish they would take measures to make t1 frigs relevant again before they attempt to bring caps to high sec.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#153 - 2015-08-15 04:21:08 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate

99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying Blink. Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock.


Russians are a different set of rules...

I did not intend to characterize them.

But most of the guys I ran with for years would be happy to fly caps in high sec...

To be honest, though, I wish they would take measures to make t1 frigs relevant again before they attempt to bring caps to high sec.

Eh this is circular but basically if you bring in caps you raise the bar to be relevant in the area. I mean personally I can fly a slowcat and 2 dreads between my toons but I'd be disappointed if this became a thing in highsec. Also as mentioned Carriers would be invulnerable in npc corps

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#154 - 2015-08-15 04:30:49 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at.

All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it.


i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up Pirate

99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying Blink. Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock.


Russians are a different set of rules...

I did not intend to characterize them.

But most of the guys I ran with for years would be happy to fly caps in high sec...

To be honest, though, I wish they would take measures to make t1 frigs relevant again before they attempt to bring caps to high sec.

Eh this is circular but basically if you bring in caps you raise the bar to be relevant in the area. I mean personally I can fly a slowcat and 2 dreads between my toons but I'd be disappointed if this became a thing in highsec. Also as mentioned Carriers would be invulnerable in npc corps



Yeah, I think I just wanted to counter-argue the idea that highsec caps would mean the end of all the nasty war deccers.

War deccers are only relevant because they know what they're doing.

What I really want is can flipping back (and a free license to turn Akiainavas back into a zoo). I can make t1 frigs relevant in that scenario just by flying them.
Xeno Szenn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#155 - 2015-08-15 06:17:34 UTC

Yeah, I think I just wanted to counter-argue the idea that highsec caps would mean the end of all the nasty war deccers.

War deccers are only relevant because they know what they're doing.

What I really want is can flipping back (and a free license to turn Akiainavas back into a zoo). I can make t1 frigs relevant in that scenario just by flying them.[/quote]

Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well.

You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#156 - 2015-08-15 11:02:32 UTC
Xeno Szenn wrote:


Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well.

You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so.


You realize half the **** we fly in highsec cost more then your slowcats right?

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Xeno Szenn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#157 - 2015-08-15 11:45:06 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Xeno Szenn wrote:


Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well.

You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so.


You realize half the **** we fly in highsec cost more then your slowcats right?


They may cost more but could they kill them? thats the real question could you break them and throw in high grade slaves and all of that I kind of doubt it. Time may prove me wrong though if high sec combat caps ever become a thing.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#158 - 2015-08-15 12:12:23 UTC
Xeno Szenn wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Xeno Szenn wrote:


Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well.

You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so.


You realize half the **** we fly in highsec cost more then your slowcats right?


They may cost more but could they kill them? thats the real question could you break them and throw in high grade slaves and all of that I kind of doubt it. Time may prove me wrong though if high sec combat caps ever become a thing.

don't stress it wont Blink

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ErrorRon
Turbo-Encabulator LLC
#159 - 2015-08-15 13:59:52 UTC
BRING BACK AOE DOOMSDAYS IN HIGHSEC

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The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#160 - 2015-08-15 16:06:39 UTC
Xeno wrote:
True the power blocks could crush high sec if they desired to but why should they it relay has no value to them
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