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HighSec Ganking and Appropriate Punishment
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#661 - 2015-08-12 09:22:38 UTC
XeX Znndstrup wrote:

Avvy wrote:
Normally I say post with an alt as it doesn't matter it's what is being said that counts.
But in your case, posting with an alt with what's being said makes no sense as nobody will take you seriously.


But what did we receive again ?
Yes, it's a new mail in our mailbox. We read. Oh ! A proposal !

As you see, an alt is not useful to say things that make no sense.
A main is able also.
Is it your main ?

Let's stop this controversy.
Misinformation is a well known strategy. We suffer it also in our threads. But it has no impact.
We conclude only you will not contact us.
Let others do as they feel.

Definitely now, we stop the exchange on this thread.

See you, elsewhere.


Ladies and gentlemen, don't smoke crack.

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Kooshti
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#662 - 2015-08-12 10:29:20 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
XeX Znndstrup wrote:

Avvy wrote:
Normally I say post with an alt as it doesn't matter it's what is being said that counts.
But in your case, posting with an alt with what's being said makes no sense as nobody will take you seriously.


But what did we receive again ?
Yes, it's a new mail in our mailbox. We read. Oh ! A proposal !

As you see, an alt is not useful to say things that make no sense.
A main is able also.
Is it your main ?

Let's stop this controversy.
Misinformation is a well known strategy. We suffer it also in our threads. But it has no impact.
We conclude only you will not contact us.
Let others do as they feel.

Definitely now, we stop the exchange on this thread.

See you, elsewhere.


Ladies and gentlemen, don't smoke crack.


if strangers offer you drugs, say thank you because drugs are expensive
Avvy
Doomheim
#663 - 2015-08-12 20:58:00 UTC
XeX Znndstrup wrote:

Is it your main ?


It's my only character.
goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#664 - 2015-08-12 23:04:27 UTC
It is interesting that you cant adequately / proactively defend your goods in HS.

In ancient Rome to get your good to market you hired some big strong / bad looking guys and the deal was if you can get my s**t through these guys its all yours.

Couple of interesting options:
In HS all safety is set to green and you can't change, its a relatively simple code change.
You can insure your trip against an NPC corp / or players could take up providing insurance, this would be an interesting business opportunity.

You can buy a 'licence' to proactively defend your ship against any player within 150km who has a 0.0 sec / gank status* this is extended to your fleet and centered around a set ship(s). - This would make HS hauling alot more fun.


gank status is applied to any player who is recorded against more then 2 HS KM that are not "Defenders" of the hauling ship.
To remove the gank status / flag you need to hand in concord(?) tags or pay a fine.

- ok tear this apart =D

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#665 - 2015-08-12 23:20:55 UTC
goodlady Smith wrote:
It is interesting that you cant adequately / proactively defend your goods in HS.

In ancient Rome to get your good to market you hired some big strong / bad looking guys and the deal was if you can get my s**t through these guys its all yours.

Couple of interesting options:
In HS all safety is set to green and you can't change, its a relatively simple code change.
You can insure your trip against an NPC corp / or players could take up providing insurance, this would be an interesting business opportunity.

You can buy a 'licence' to proactively defend your ship against any player within 150km who has a 0.0 sec / gank status* this is extended to your fleet and centered around a set ship(s). - This would make HS hauling alot more fun.


gank status is applied to any player who is recorded against more then 2 HS KM that are not "Defenders" of the hauling ship.
To remove the gank status / flag you need to hand in concord(?) tags or pay a fine.

- ok tear this apart =D


Lets just nip that idea in bud yeah? k

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goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#666 - 2015-08-12 23:23:57 UTC
Why?
You could have epic HS battles Big smile

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#667 - 2015-08-13 01:20:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
goodlady Smith wrote:
It is interesting that you cant adequately / proactively defend your goods in HS.
You can, but it requires effort, something many people aren't willing to invest.

Quote:
In ancient Rome to get your good to market you hired some big strong / bad looking guys and the deal was if you can get my s**t through these guys its all yours.
In Eve you can
  • bring along friends with webs to help you by slingshotting your hauler into warp so fast that gankers generally can't get get near it.
  • the above mentioned friends can also shoot flashy red pirates in the face without any loss of sec status or Concord/ Faction Police interference.
  • not put all of your eggs in one basket.
  • be at the keyboard instead of using autopilot.
  • fly something that aligns quickly (for a hauler) and has a tank.
  • contract your stuff, with suitable collateral, out to people that know how to haul properly.


    • Quote:
    Couple of interesting options:
    In HS all safety is set to green and you can't change, its a relatively simple code change.
    You can insure your trip against an NPC corp / or players could take up providing insurance, this would be an interesting business opportunity.
    First option, nope; I'm a frikking bear and even I can see just how terrible an idea this is. Second option, insurance for your trip is already available, it's called thinking about what you're doing, and utilising the mechanics and social structures that are available to minimise the risks.

    Quote:
    You can buy a 'licence' to proactively defend your ship against any player within 150km who has a 0.0 sec / gank status* this is extended to your fleet and centered around a set ship(s). - This would make HS hauling alot more fun.
    Most gankers are already universally engageable without penalty beyond a combat timer, by virtue of their security status.

    Quote:
    gank status is applied to any player who is recorded against more then 2 HS KM that are not "Defenders" of the hauling ship.
    To remove the gank status / flag you need to hand in concord(?) tags or pay a fine.
    Overly wide criteria, when a player is unshipped by another player a KM is generated regardless of whether it's by suicide gank or other combat mechanic. With that in mind how would your system differentiate between people who suicide gank and others that engage in hisec combat such as RvB or mercenaries?

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    #668 - 2015-08-13 07:44:07 UTC
    Globby wrote:
    The free market basically pushes the ganking of freighters one way or another.

    I regularly haul tens of billions and I'm never ganked. I wonder why.




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