EVE General Discussion

Premium Beta crowd checking in, all DLC are free of charge and that includes beta access.


Also, as a non-sub game that isn't whoring itself out like Star Citizen I'd say that E:D is doing just fine without being dicks about it.

Someone else said this but it sums up E:D perfectly: "E:D is a lake 1000 miles wide but an inch deep".

So £130 for a lifetime of expansions is bad, but paying CCP £90-£120 per year is better? Remember, they have no sub cost. You pay for expansions in place of paying for a sub. All companies have to make money to continue operating.

You paid for fozziesov. They promised entertainment and delivered structure mining whack-a-mole. Thankfully EVE is F2P for long time vets. Once VR comes out properly and I hook that up with E:D, I'll probably drop down to being a filthy casual in EVE.

Paying for something that does not exist is the pinnacle of risk.
The kickstarter community, in particular, confuses the hell out of me.
Ive learned though that apparently many people have far more expendable income than I do, and that many people will pay for dreams. Fine. They can fund it, and get a cheap tshirt. I wont till the product is there.

I prefer subscription models with free dlc (as in EVE), to paid DLC models.
Reason being that in the former you fund development, participate in risk together with the provider, and can stop doing that when your interests nonlonger coincide.
Whereas in the latter, DLC is almost always incentivised by advantages which even if you disagree with, you will have to pay inorder to remain competitive and enjoy all aspects of the product equally.

Im holding out on ED on principle till more multiplayer integration, even though I am very attracted to what I have seen so far of how comprehensive and immersive the entire starship experience is.

Same goes for SC. Ill gladly pay sub, but only for a product that is reasonable ready. I wont throw money down that well just in hope of some future iteration, especially if inorder to access it, Ill have to pay DLC as well as sub.

You do tend to pay more for subs though. The problem I've always had with subs is that it's easy to forget how much you pay for them. There are many people who have paid several thousand dollars to play EVE and even if development isn't being done on things you like, you're still continuing to pay.

Depends on whether your lifetime in E:D lasts more than a year, I guess.

At least the TrainSim guys have some kind of excuse and historical reasoning behind their business model. They're going for the model train market where, at the extreme end, a single engine can cost almost as much as all that DLC. Sure, we get into the whole “hand-crafted super-detailed working micro-machinery vs. infinitely reproducible digital download” at that point, but they know their market and they price their stuff accordingly.

Similarly, on other parts of the sim spectrum, we have stuff like this for the flight fanatics and these guys for the driver nuts — each happy to take your $5,000 for a fully kitted-out set. Simulation accessories has always been a funny business.


So EVE will be dead in 1 year so it'll have time to be buried and rot into some kind of undead anti-game?

star citizen looks intresting but I only bought 1 ship and sticking with it until its released 50% playable so i get a feel of the game
By that i dont mean the current fish tank experience..
Eve will stay alive for at least 3 years + imo

the thing about elite is that it's amazingly like elite and not so much like eve which i believe has been the misunderstanding all along.

also commander backer master race so don't care \o/

CCP charge a monthly subscription for access to the servers to play the game. The updates are free. While we're comparing content though, I do laugh a little when someone makes like EVE has less than Elite in any way shape or form.