Crime & Punishment

I sit on the fence with both sides of this sort of thing, while you are having freedom to do what you want you are restricting the freedom of other to play your own game. yeah they can avoid it ofcourse but having to avoid something is not freedom to go where you want, but i only really look at this from wardec mechanics where they force people, and forcing something on someone is not freedom.

but the rules allow it so why even bother arguing about it

I find it remarkable that a corp thief has an argument against griefing.

Honestly, I'll steal jet cans, bump your ship, loot your missions, and smack you in local. I always keep it polite but my objective is always to pick a fight... Sometimes someone gets mad.

That's pretty much how fights get picked.

You, however, use a much more insidious method: lying to people while developing relationships with them and then stealing the output of months of their time.

I find your playstyle distasteful because you value isk (which isn't an especially meaningful substance) over relationships.

I'm glad you are in the game because you are a threat to be considered, however I think you make every crime i've ever committed, ever war I've waged, and every noob I've blasted seem like a collection of kindnesses.

When I get done killing someone's ship, he always knows that I picked a fight, he accepted a risk, and his decisions resulted in a degree of loss. We all know the first rule of Eve.

When you get done they feel betrayal, insecurity with the social framework of eve, and quite frequently as though they're "starting over".

For you to judge the traditional griefer for picking fights and hunting targets is the equivalent of Bernie Madoff judging a child for shoplifting.

I think you're probably just the kind of person who doesn't value relationships, isn't sharp enough to master game mechanics, and lies to himself an awful lot.

I am imagining that, no matter how hot you are, you don't make friends very well.

I find your judgement of griefers meaningless and difficult to understand. You make us look like public servants.

Other kids are picking on me and stomping my sandcastle.

If I get arrested after trying that at the beach, I am calling you for bail.

I dont know why everyone is giving you a hard time, i 100% agree with this post

There are a ton of things to do in eve. Industry, mining, pve, pve, salvaging, exploration. Eve isnt ONLY a pvp game. How do you get ships and modules? How do you make isk? How do you get components to build stuff?

Just because a majority of players like to do pvp, doesnt make eve a "pvp only game you have to pvp or else" sure its the most popular thing to do, but there are other things to do in eve

All the things you mentioned are PvP in this game.

All the things you mentioned are PvP in this game.

Also, and I'm amazed that nobody has brought this up yet, are we denizens of C&P so loud in bed that folks are really asking us to stop moaning?

Damn, we must be doing something right....

Okay sure, sandbox and all that, BUT

What gives you the RIGHT to force the empire population of EvE to PvP?