EVE General Discussion

Just for GD and cos Ive had a few, how about this suggestion inspired by other war games on a meta level (EUIV, SOASE, HoI2, RISK, RUSE etc):

Sov ownership would have core and peripheral systems extending from a penultimate declared (and invested) end capitol.

Individual systems are developed by constructed infrastructure and economic/insystem participation on an index which results in commensurate system wide benefit modifiers to activity in that system based on which improvements are built and how acrive residents are.

A "core" sytem designation is possible once a system has otherwise been developed enough on indexes from activity and constructed infrastrcture, and is connected by other pre-existing cores to the end capitol. Benefit of a core system is greater infrastructure options, greater modifiers to activity and the opportunity to then connect adjoining systems to that care, by elevating them to cores themselves.

The further from a core these systems are, the less index it has nominally, and the less rate of development it has due to activity, and has greater expense for structural development until closer connected systems ehich are a core and are developed beyond them, on a degrading scale the further from a core (and ultimately the owning capitol) the system is.

This consitututes a radiant model of central control, which can be extended and improved incrementally according to investment in time, isk (structures) and various player activities operating there eventually to evermore outlying systems.

This makes sov essentially regional at first, and expansion, especially beyond cores more expensive, and requiring of more time spent in activities in those systems so as to "unlock" systems adjoining that one by raising activity indexes. This also makes the only essential terrain feature in EVE (ie:gate connections) a real strategic concern in terms of expansion and development, as well as adding real value to insystem activity.

Additionally, if activity falls off in systems earlier in the progression chain, that directly affects the modifiers and cost of development of systems further down the chain. Space WILL have to be used as a result, or the furthest reaching extremities of any organisations expanse will suffer a multiplication of development costs and penalty in modifiers.

As to sov invasion mechanics, I propose the following:

We keep current mechanics on the essentials of Entosis, but it requires:
-Larger ship class and fills the hell out of that hulls capacity and function, making them the "flag carrier" of that invasion attempt. If the ship that deployed the link is destroyed, leaves vicinity of the link (barring it being integrated to the hull slots) or leaves, its progress is lost entirely. Id go so far as to suggest CCP designs and introduces Entosis ship classes for specifically this purpose.
-Requires multiple links the more developed the system is, and all Entosis carriers reduce capture time on an additive scale depending on how many there are. Meaning each link reduces time, but less than the previous one.

Aside from the crushing wave of critique this will invite, what remains still is a system of slowing large fleets responding.
Personally I would suggest that the Entosis system also slows arrival of ALL fleets to the system, based on its current rate.
Yes, this slows defendants as well, and results in bullshit equivalent of TIDI while in transit, but it also forces an attacker to commit fully before attempting the invasion in the first place, lest their fleets have to delaybin transit too.

Please, no need to get angry.
Ive had a few and post this only to promote discussion and options as I would if we were sitting at a table together with you all at fanfest having some liquid encouragement. Lets explore and brainstorm options.

5mins into creating an account nobody can even find the space crapper, let alone figure out how to jump to the nearest system or how to dominate "uncontrolled" space :P

My suggestion aims to make it possible for a smallish entity to establish themselves in space they can control, work on, and benefit from that, and perhaps expand to neighbouring systems eventually.

I don't even know what most of those are. I feel so left out.

Mr Epeen

Those are all single player games and it is hard to pull those rule sets into a PVP MMO.

SOV should be simple.

You own the station by taking over the station's offices, first by assaulting the system, second by disarming the guns on the station and third by landing in station and taking the Corp office.

I have lived in o.o space but never understood the SOV system and really do not understand the new one at all.

Conceptually I think sovereignty is actually kinda backwards. Right now you need to have a TCU running to give you de jure ownership of a system before you can perform any of the fun expressions of de facto sovereignty like, say, building a station. I think it should actually be the other way around, in that your control of a system is defined by power projection and how much infrastructure you've built in the system.

This is why I like the idea of citadels and more importantly making citadels fully destructible. The problem is I just don't want to turn stuff back into pre-Dominion sov or bring back structure bashing.

penultimate means next to last... a next to last declared capital? what are you talking about?

The first two issues that sprang to mind regarding this system:
-How would you address the NPC systems in certain region like Delve, Fountain, and Pure Blind that could cause some serious screwiness in core systems being connected?
-How would you handle the current sov holders who are very firmly entrenched and secure in their current space? I ask this because, unless you were to do a total sov wipe at the start of this, it would be as simple as a few clicks to some options (most likely, knowing CCP) to instantly make the northwest permanently inaccessible to anyone that we don't want there.