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Rykker Bow

Center for Advanced Studies

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#21 - 2015-08-06 19:07:07 UTC | Edited by: Rykker Bow

flakeys wrote:

Did rykker just say ''thus'' ? Is that actually still a word commonly used by british and american people in the 21st century?

lol, typo there. Should have been *this. I'm going to lay blame on this so called 'smart phone'. It should have known better. Lol

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#22 - 2015-08-06 19:08:07 UTC

flakeys wrote:

Elizabeth Norn wrote:

Marvin Erikson wrote:

Elizabeth Norn wrote:

No profit in character trading, eh?

Actually, I just bought this toon and have no intention of letting go of it, so you're asking the wrong question to the wrong person. :)

My apologies, but you have done an excellent job of running circles in the snow

I like to make figures in the snow by making it yellow .... Shocked

.... is that odd ?

As long as you don't eat it afterwards. NEVER eat the yellow snow.

Rilati Kansene

Monte Inc

Likes received: 39

#23 - 2015-08-07 02:51:18 UTC

Marvin Erikson wrote:

Actually, I get it, it's good to be skeptic in a game where you can lose all of your isk in a bad investment. But how can I prove that I'm worthy of loans? Please walk me through the process.

Hey - as it just so happens, I started a thread Exactly for someone such as yourself to find the answer to that exact question - within you will find the wisdom of guys with multiple T's to throw around with many suggestions on how to go about having any chance whatsoever of finding anyone willing to provide you with a loan.
Note, don't discount the posts re: Bacon - likely some more abstract merit to them. But focus on the others first Big smile

Rilati Kansene

Monte Inc

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#24 - 2015-08-07 10:24:37 UTC

Marvin Erikson wrote:

Actually, I get it, it's good to be skeptic in a game where you can lose all of your isk in a bad investment. But how can I prove that I'm worthy of loans? Please walk me through the process.

As Bad Bobby has already identified that as a loan this thread really isn't going to go anywhere, but as a learning tool maybe worthwhile.

So, for those playing along at home further down the track when bumps and post abandonment leave this thread and the thread I'm going to reference far apart, this will still make sense.

You've received good advice in your own thread from people who know what they are talking about - but the problems are readily apparent:

You aren't able to identify on your own what is good advice and what is bad
or you are instead just ignoring all the advice
and/or you aren't capable of doing your own research, unless you get lucky a lot, you aren't going anywhere as a trader, and a lucky trader who can't research only goes up a few times before failing poorly.

To spell this out; Bobby and Rykker have both suggested "Build forum history, play nice with others" - they just used more words.
Following which you have hopped across to that other thread and to Every.Single.Post you have labelled the poster as a troll.
So, either you didn't notice Bobby has 1000 'likes' and with an average of one like for every 3 posts he's either been around a realllllly long time or is a very active forum member.
And you didn't vet the same advice from Rykker - just two clicks would have landed you on Rykkers borrowing history -> when someone with a history of borrowing a lot (relative to the numbers you are thinking), a lot of times gives advice... maybe its not going to be bad advice ?

Now to hop back to the bit I quoted for a bit of overall thinking - No one here will ever be losing all of their ISK on a bad investment.
An *investment* is a calculated risk|reward math and trust game - nothing more or less, and in the vast majority of cases the person doing the loaning will be lending out between 1 and 5 percent of their actual worth - so very little harm done if at all goes bad, and this is factored from the beginning.
A *good investment* has collateral and a trusted 3rd party to ensure investors get some/all of their investment back - risk primarily around only tying up funds that could have been better used elsewhere.
A *gamble* is when you take all of your isk and risk losing it by giving it to someone who at best as a 10% chance of giving it back (see your original request, and the other thread you are defending (?))

Other hand, I'm a forum nobody known primarily for giving out long winded advice (and occasionally for pulling apart threads into tiny pieces to over-analyse - hey, it's my hobby) so feel free to ignore me too.

So, there's a wall of text, but seeing as you like things in nice concise sentences:
ignore advice + call MD regulars trolls = no loan

Cista2

EVE Museum

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#25 - 2015-08-07 11:20:43 UTC | Edited by: Cista2

Rilati Kansene wrote:

So, either you didn't notice Bobby has 1000 'likes' and with an average of one like for every 3 posts he's either been around a realllllly long time or is a very active forum member.

OR, he has received a lot of likes from his alliance minions and from people that admire persistent scammers. Slamming the label "troll" on Bad Bobby is a career advancement that he does not really deserve. Trying to anoint him an "MD regular" in a sentence that does not contain the word "scammer" is not something I approve of.

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Elizabeth Norn

Nornir Research

Nornir Empire

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#26 - 2015-08-08 15:00:44 UTC

http://imgur.com/a/kGiPo

Not even trying.

Cista2 wrote:

Rilati Kansene wrote:

So, either you didn't notice Bobby has 1000 'likes' and with an average of one like for every 3 posts he's either been around a realllllly long time or is a very active forum member.

Bad Bobby most likely got those likes for being a helpful forum poster, look at his post history.

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Bobb Bobbington

Rattini Tribe

Minmatar Fleet Alliance

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#27 - 2015-08-08 19:03:01 UTC

Bad Bobby wrote:

Bobb Bobbington wrote:

Bad Bobby wrote:

Bobb Bobbington wrote:

I have a little more than 2b isk, and trade faction parts just fine with that amount of capital. I might make more if I used all of my orders with smaller items, but it really cuts down the time it takes to update them when you only ever have like 40 or 50 orders up.

I have just short of 7320 active orders up (24 Tycoon V characters fully utilised) and it takes me less than 60 minutes per week to maintain them.

While the number of orders and the size of your basket of goods does make a difference, the amount of competition in your chosen marketplace is far more important.

The time I have to play the game is sortof hit-and-miss, so I like to log in like once every 4 hours when I have the chance to just update my orders, the less time I need to update them the better, I usually keep it around 5 minutes. I can see how updating lots of orders would be a useful tactic for someone with large defined blocks of when they can and can't play, but for me keeping less, more expensive, orders is best.

As long as you are thinking about what works for you and not what works for other people, then you're doing it right.

Thanks, I just hope I make as much isk as you have :)

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