Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Could the alert on structure lasering perhaps be moved back to the start of the warm up cycle?

Benefits as I see it:

Greater benefit to a fast warmup cycle to get the ball rolling - i.e. incentive to use T2 mods.
On the ball owners can kick the offender out before they have to fire up their own link and warmup to undo the damage.
People pinging stuctures to start a fight will still get the fight, just sooner
People trying to hold space overstretched have the same problems.
No fundamental change to existing mechanics

This would really reward those living in the place and actively hunting people down by means of a time saving after chasing off irritants but without needing to have eyes on the target grid all the time.


It's a fairly minor QOL type change (I think) and one in the right direction. Those not living in their space/ignoring it will be just as boned today as tomorrow and need to respond. It purely benefits those guys "doing it right™" with a little carrot.

If they are actively in space and hunting people down surely the what? 10-30 minutes it takes once the warmup has stopped is enough to get to the action and murderboat the sovlaser people...

I live in a wormhole with a static nullsec but we once ragerolled to blopsing range of a batphoned (we got paid handsomely dont worry) region in 30 minutes... Surely 30 minutes of random chance to get a decent nullsec means that if you dont have to rageroll and actually talk to people in other corps/alliances and make sure we dont get dropped on by the defenders (since you'd be blue) means that there's plenty of time now...

It's not about giving them more time to respond, it is about rewarding people who actually live their without NEEDING to park an alt on the obective for the whole window.

At the moment what happens is

>Warm up cycle 5 mins
>Warm up completes, progress starts & ping goes out simultaneously

This can go two ways at this stage: no response comes (which I'll ignore as this proposal doesn't change this) and response comes:

Let us say that the response fleet kicks interloper out in moments (let's say it's someone just poking the fence for weakness/lack of response or someone ringing the doorbell for a fight).

The owners then need to sit through their own warm up cycle to undo the prior action, this seems unnecessarily punitive towards them. They responded as soon as notified, the attacker was swiftly removed.

So the whole process in this example would be

>Warm up cycle 5 mins
>Warm up completes, progress starts & ping goes out simultaneously
>Attacked booted out
>Defender sits through warmup to undo a few seconds worth of entosis.

Basically I don't think people should be penalised for not parking up to stop an attack which gives no notifications. It would be a nice QOL improvement for people who live in the systems but preventing the "need" to have eyes on the target the whole time, lest you spend 5 minutes work every time someone comes calling to run off.


I feel it would be more reasonable to act as follows:

>Warm up cycle 5 mins ping goes out simultaneously
>>If attackers booted out before warmup completes, nothing happens. No further defender action required. Otherwise proceed as normal
>Warm up allowed to complete, progress starts
>Attacked booted out
>Defender sits through warmup to undo entosis progress.



I do concede, this does allow the defenders a few extra minutes to respond which I hadn't thought of, but I don't actually see that as a bad thing.



Tbh, I don't actually see much point in a "warm up" cycle if it didnt work like this, especially with the capitals having a longer one.

It'd certainly save time waiting when you're poking a fight.

Fully support this. Makes much more sense than current system does. Rewards people for being active on defense without really changing anything for the attacker other than they might get the fight a little sooner.

One can easily argue that if your group is active in the system they will know when someone is Entosising something. You call it babysitting but that word only applies to systems you are not active in.

I think restricting Entosis modules from interceptors and changing the notifications to ONLY be system wide would be a good change.

I asked this very question when aegis sov was on test server. I got this answer from Fozzie.

http://i.imgur.com/M00p7kJ.png

I consistently try to live by my mother's guidance: "If you do not have anything nice to say, do not say anything at all." This is something at which I often fail... and it is not made easier by these sorts of statements from CCP. Sorry, mom...

The whole point of the damn game is to get people on the same grid to fight! The notification should go out immediately to make contesting the grid happen sooner.

Instantnotification -> Good, that means i grab a trollceptor and generate about 15 notificationmails in 5 minutes?
in several systems obviously
every day, for weeks

still asking why it's delayed?!