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Plex hits 1b ISK in Jita

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#61 - 2015-08-07 21:22:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Also, can we get the difference between “less” and “fewer” right, please?


Hopefully

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Jacob Gault
Doomheim
#62 - 2015-08-07 21:28:28 UTC
You know it be good if more plex cards get seed help keep the cost around 1b and under! You can't tell me people will stop selling them if they stay around 1b.

Or.

CCP could do a bigger plex sale hoping to flood the market with more of them.. I would like to see them go for $10 a pop.. I bet it would flood the markert hard.. only would do it for 30 day with limit of 1 per account being sold.. just idea
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#63 - 2015-08-07 21:41:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Also, can we get the difference between “less” and “fewer” right, please?



A thumbs down button would solve so many of your issues. Figure that one out.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2015-08-07 21:42:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Hal Morsh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Also, can we get the difference between “less” and “fewer” right, please?

A thumbs down button would solve so many of your issues. Figure that one out.

Cry more. Countable and uncountable words is not rocket surgery.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#65 - 2015-08-07 21:51:29 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
At the end of the day, I think CCP are going to be confronted with the necessity of lowering their price point. It may seem counter-intuitive, but they're better off with 15 customers paying $10 each than they are with 10 customers paying $15 each. And not just a bit better - a lot better off.


Also ingame.

CCP doesn't control the price ingame. A price reduction ingame would be a side effect of what Malcanis is proposing.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#66 - 2015-08-07 21:56:24 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
At the end of the day, I think CCP are going to be confronted with the necessity of lowering their price point. It may seem counter-intuitive, but they're better off with 15 customers paying $10 each than they are with 10 customers paying $15 each. And not just a bit better - a lot better off.


Also ingame.

CCP doesn't control the price ingame. A price reduction ingame would be a side effect of what Malcanis is proposing.


I didn't say what exact effect the price would have ingame, only better ;)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#67 - 2015-08-07 22:02:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Also, can we get the difference between “less” and “fewer” right, please?

A thumbs down button would solve so many of your issues. Figure that one out.

Cry more. Countable and uncountable words is not rocket surgery.
Just yesterday I did surgery on a live atomic bomb while passing the time waiting for FO4 to be released by playing FO3.

No rocket surgery of late, though.

Mr Epeen Cool
Panthe3 Black
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2015-08-08 02:53:32 UTC
come on 2b pr plex woot watch my wallet grow
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-08-08 03:04:59 UTC
I found 3 Paycheques while cleaning m car today. Going to PLEX me a new Carrier/Marauder/Dread tonight. #noshame #don'tbejelly
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#70 - 2015-08-08 03:06:33 UTC
So much for a PLEX now

@lunettelulu7
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2015-08-08 03:31:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
Ioci wrote:
They were floating around a billion just before the ISBox policy changes too.

Many threads were made.

Then they died.

Only absolute morons were paying "around 1b" for plex before the REPEATER policy change.

I was still buying daily for 830m AT MOST during that era. So I never really saw a drop in prices.

Mr Epeen wrote:
That's the problem right there, in my opinion.

Remember when a million was huge? I do.

I was over the moon when my wallet hit 100m. And I earned it. I didn't buy it from CCP.

Then came PLEX. CCP's answer to attracting all those millennials coming of age into the game. Now a billion is nothing. I feel barely adequate with my current worth of around 140b.

What a failed experiment PLEX turned out to be for actual gamers. Great for CCP, though, so it's here to stay. Unfortunately.

Mr Epeen Cool

Far from being a failure for the gamers. If nothing else once PLex was introduced gold spammers pretty much vanished.

I would argue there are plenty of other things that could be listed as being good for the playerbase but what would be the point?
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2015-08-08 04:23:55 UTC
Someone told me once - oh boy these officier gear is so dqmn expensive do to rare factor... hmm this damn plex like dirt is almost everywhere but cost higher than some of the officier mods already.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#73 - 2015-08-08 04:51:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Malcanis wrote:
At the end of the day, I think CCP are going to be confronted with the necessity of lowering their price point. It may seem counter-intuitive, but they're better off with 15 customers paying $10 each than they are with 10 customers paying $15 each. And not just a bit better - a lot better off.

Huh? 15$ for a PLEX? PLEX costs 20€ (~ 21$ at the moment) here in Europe. A few years ago, when Euro was worth more, it was almost 30$ for PLEX.

Where can you get it for 15$?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2015-08-08 08:01:07 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#75 - 2015-08-08 09:29:25 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
At the end of the day, I think CCP are going to be confronted with the necessity of lowering their price point. It may seem counter-intuitive, but they're better off with 15 customers paying $10 each than they are with 10 customers paying $15 each. And not just a bit better - a lot better off.

That's 5 more who might buy Aurum, for one.

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Avvy
Doomheim
#76 - 2015-08-08 11:06:42 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
I'm sure all of us are space rich but Shocked



I don't see what the issue is, the players set the price.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#77 - 2015-08-08 11:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
DaReaper wrote:
TL;DR too much salt i am sure.. but my response to these is the same..

So?

You can make 1b isk in about 4 hours in a c4 wormhole. If you and another friend run it you can make more.

It really is not hat hard to make 1b isk.


1 bill plex prices aren't the problem. It's how fast the prices rose to that amount that is raising alarms of a Plex Inflation. At this rate the plex prices are gonna hit the 2 bill mark by the end of this year.

Also, not everyone has a non-interrupted access to a darn C4 WH.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#78 - 2015-08-08 11:43:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Webvan wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Wohoo! More cash for less. \o/

Daniela Doran wrote:
Wrong! People will stop plexing and either quit because too expensive or pay the 3 months/6months package from account management. Either way is bad because the rising plex prices is due to the rapid decline in subscribers and this is still summer. Makes you wonder what's gonna happen to eve when school starts.

Do you have any actual numbers on that decline? And have you taken into account the regular player activity behaviour during summer and early autumn?

Also keep in mind the bulk of the playerbase is in their 30's here. Some 60% I think it was. 10-15% in their 40's. ~25% in their 20's. A large percentage of players according to CCP are into tech, computer related, IT jobs. Why does it matter when school starts? So wrong on so many things, Dan.


I'm just going by the rise in number of online users I see during the summer versus the school semesters. In summer of 2013 during peak times the online numbers was around 42k - 50k versus an average of 28k-34k during peak time school months. This summer during peak times the online numbers is around 27k-33k versus an average of 17k-22k during peak time school months. With this trend it's safe to assume that more younger people from ages 17-25 play eve more in the summer time.
Avvy
Doomheim
#79 - 2015-08-08 11:45:24 UTC
Tackninja wrote:
Quote:
no my rl money doesnt really get taxed for sitting around so neither should my plex its like people investing in gold irl, plex is new eden gold


Actually it does. It is a type of capital gains tax. But still, EVE is not "real" world. So them applying a tax is plausible and would potentially help lower PLEX costs.



Don't see the point, they're just an in-game item so shouldn't be treated any differently.


There will be a point at which people are not prepared to buy them and then you will reach a level of more stability. Although it may be difficult to see when it reaches that point if a lot of players are buying them to hang on to them to make a profit. But that's the risk they take.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#80 - 2015-08-08 11:55:40 UTC
As long as plex investors are allowed to drive the price of plex sales, they will continue to rise in price simply due to the actions of the investors. This is irregardless of any kind of supply & demand equation.
Much like house prices rise despite not actually creating anything new simply because someone bought them and sold them three months later. The investors have control of the market and a steady rise in price with the odd price crash suits them perfectly.